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CFB Playoff Rankings

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Oct 28, 2014.

  1. Major

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    Michigan State added a win over the #4 team in the country. OU did nothing. Why couldn't MSU jump OU? They arguably have a better loss and they have a set of quality wins (Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa, Oregon) that matches or is better than OU (Tennessee, Baylor, TCU, Okie State).
     
  2. dc rock

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    Navy moved up two spots without playing and Houston moved up one after beating another top-25 team?
     
  3. gucci888

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    Except better losses and quality wins factors into SoS which OU has the jump on them. Looking at the 4 factors the committee decides on, don't see how they jump OU.

    Championships Won: Draw
    Strength of Schedule: OU
    Head to Head: None
    Comparative Outcomes of Common Opponents: None
     
  4. Major

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    Those aren't the only 4 factors the committee is allowed to decide on.
     
  5. UtilityPlayer

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    TCU vs Oregon in SA
     
  6. BleedRocketsRed

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    Really think they didn't want OU to play in Dallas as the lower seed.
     
  7. Kim

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    There are more metrics than those that the committee uses, but for me, SOS only matters at the bottom and the top. If you're a playing a bunch of FCS scrubs out-of-conference, then that's a penalty (North Carolina, Baylor). In the middle, I don't find any value difference in a win against Texas Tech (7-5) and Indiana (6-6). But SOS will favor the Tech win becsuse it is against the "better" team.

    So for me, as long as you're not scheduling scrubs, and you take care of business in conference, then it's all about the top of your schedule. OU and Michigan State both had 1 conference mess up against mediocre teams, but their top wins just favored Mich St. It's really splitting hairs because both teams are great imo. But the 4 best wins are subjectively significantly better for St. I don't think much of TCU (due to injuries) and Okie St (due to being completely fraudulent). Baylor was a great win even though it was against QB2.

    But yes, the committee is ultimately subjective and I'm sure some members believed OU should be 3, which is completely defensible.
     
  8. gucci888

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    Good post. But they should have jumped Bama as well then. 3 of their 4 best wins turned out to be against bigger frauds them any of OUs or Mich St, you could even argue all 4 really (LSU, Georgia, A&M, and UF).

    But yes there is some subjectivity behind the rankings and think this was the deciding factor in the jump than anything else.
     
  9. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I always find it odd that if say Houston beats a crappy SEC team it is somehow a huge coup, when in reality that win was against a crappy team.
     
  10. Kim

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    When it comes to body-of-work, I absolutely agree that Michigan St has a better resume than Bama. I've just come to accept that so many members of the committee, A) love Bama and B) love the Big 10.
    While the BCS had some subjectivity with the polls and ranking biases, it really was an algorithm that tried to take human opinion out of it. With the committee, it's like going the opposite direction, lol. Look, I think Bama is a great team, but yeah, the SEC is just another conference this year, like it was last year. Before that, it was fair to say that SEC had dominance considering the major Bowl victories over a 7 year period. But all the SEC has been since late last year is just average at best.
     
  11. tinman

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    The ACC is strong this year.
     
  12. ItsMyFault

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    I'm glad MSU jumped OU. This sets up for the best matchup in the championship game which I think is Alabama vs. OU. They are the two best teams in the country right now with all due respect to the perfect Clemson team.
     
  13. Ziggy

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    Bama and OU probably are the best but I think either one could lose in round 1. What are the lines?
     
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    OU -2.5
    Alabama -9.5
     
  15. Kim

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    IIRC, Bama was a big favorite against Ohio St. last year in the Semis too.
     
  16. UtilityPlayer

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    Mich St is not as explosive as OSU last year offensively. But MSU has the toughness to match up with Bama to certain extant.
     
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    Great post and good points. In my ideal world, you're dealing with undefeated teams, and that does not seem to be the norm these days. I still prefer the system I put forth, but I don't necessarily feel like other opinions are wrong. It's just based on how a fan values certain things.

    To eliminate judgment, I actually have an even less popular preference. Why not go back to the computer rankings, but this time do it right? Before, I don't know how they settled on the computer rankings. I used to look at them, and they were seriously screwed up. You have to make the algorithms transparent and have them agreed upon by the right people, but it would enforce common sense when humans can ignore it. Not going to happen though! Already screwed the pooch on it once!!!!
     
  18. J.R.

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    11.1.2016
    25. Washington State
    24. Boise State
    23. Western Michigan
    22. Florida State
    21. North Carolina
    20. West Virginia
    19. Virginia Tech
    18. Oklahoma State
    17. Baylor
    16. Utah
    15. Colorado
    14. Oklahoma
    13. LSU
    12. Penn State
    11. Florida
    10. Nebraska
    9. Auburn
    8. Wisconsin
    7. Louisville
    6. Ohio State
    5. Washington
    4. Texas A&M
    3. Michigan
    2. Clemson
    1. Alabama
     
  19. Fyreball

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    I didn't think the committee would take strength of schedule this seriously, but I'm glad they are. Gig 'Em!
     
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  20. Uprising

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    Representing the state of Texas nicely.....1 loss @ Bama > Loss vs Penn State.
     
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