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CFB Playoff Rankings

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Oct 28, 2014.

  1. don grahamleone

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    Baylor should focus on trying to beat out teams ahead of them like TCU and Ohio State. If Baylor jumped an undefeated FSU team that has come off of beating everyone for 2 years straight, it's a farce. Period. It's not an argument. There is no argument, for any team, over a power conference undefeated team when everyone else has 1 loss. How is an undefeated defending national champion who beat a great Auburn team last year at 4? Don't tell me there's an argument. There isn't. This group of people running the show are flexing power, not judgement.
     
  2. J Sizzle

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    Kinda like that team where they beat them out on the field?
     
  3. Brando2101

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    Predictions:

    1) Alabama
    2) Oregon
    3) Florida St
    4) Ohio St
    5) Baylor
    6) TCU

    I think not having a conference championship is what killed the big 12. Seeing TCU beat up on the worst team in the conference for the last 5 years is really forgettable. Ohio St destroying Wisconsin though is very hard to ignore. It's also worth noting that they now have more wins than tcu and baylor. Although Major pointed out that Ohio St has a very weak non conference schedule as well so who knows. I'm not sure how much better you can say Kansas St is than Wisconsin. Both lost to high profile big 5 opponents.


    One of the big flaws of college football is how to compare teams who both do well in their own conference but don't have big non conference wins. The only way to really judge how good a conference is, is by comparing it to other conferences in head to head competition. The big 12 didn't have a single (I believe) big win in a con conference game. Loses to Auburn, Alabama, UCLA, Florida St make it a lot harder to legitimize the quality of each team.

    Oddly, if the big 12 had a conference game than Baylor would have been playing Kansas St anyway. This assumes though the conference would have shaked out the same way if the conference was split into divisions and a round robin was phased out. Hardly a given. Perhaps it would be better if the big 12 would find two more teams and go back to the old system. There aren't any valuable teams (TV Wise) left after the ACC locked everyone in and Louisville went to the ACC. BYU is of note but they have their own TV network so that might negate their value.

    Expect this much controversy every year. Sad to see the big 12 on the outs after all of the conference shakeups a couple years ago.

    Although, Maybe I'm completely wrong about the final rankings.
     
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  4. Bob Barker 007

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    I'm curious as to what you think the Big 12 should change if they get left out of the playoff. It doesn't seem natural to have a conference championship game with 10 teams. The conference would have to eliminate a bye week, a conference game, or a non-conference game to leave room for a conference championship. Does Bowlsby look to expand, and which teams does the Big 12 go after?
     
  5. solid

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    I think you are right, but what the new system proves is clearly that it doesn't include enough teams. At least eight should get in, and probably sixteen would be perfect. Four is too small. Baylor and TCU are likely going to get screwed.
     
  6. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Stephen Hawking was right, humans are morons. AI wins. Every human sees this differently, and yet, there should be a clear answer.
     
  7. Brando2101

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    The bye week is not a big deal. Not every team builds bye weeks to carry them into the last week of the season (when the other conferences have championship games) and they would have the same number of bye weeks as every other team. Also, playing 1 less conference game would match what the other conferences do with their schedules.

    The awkward part of it is how many conference games to play. I'm not really sure it makes sense to cut 1 game if you are already playing every other team. The only system that makes sense is the one they had before with 12 teams but each school would have to take a pay cut if more schools were added to the pot. There aren't any schools they could add that would increase the value of the conference in a tv deal.
     
  8. A_3PO

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    At 8, hardly anybody will give a care about the 9th team complaining, especially since a Big-5 conference champion can't miss the cut.

    IMO, 16 teams is too many because it creates a 4-round playoff after a 12 or 13 game regular season. That is too many.

    For me, it's either 4 or 8 and I'm leaning 8.
     
  9. mick fry

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    No way you move TCU down after the hammering they put on Iowa St. They are 3 they should stay at 3. If ya wanna make an argument for Ohio St taking 4 from FSU then I' m ok with that.
     
  10. J Sizzle

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    All I know is if the committee goes with the Big 12 over the Big 10, and they give it to TCU over Baylor, then that's a joke. Winning has to matter more than anything else.
     
  11. mick fry

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    How are they ranked right now? Why should Baylor move ahead of TCU after this week?
     
  12. Brando2101

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    How can you be ok with FSU out of the top 4 if winning is the most important thing?
     
  13. Hustle Town

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    Watch the Playoff Committee knock out Oregon:
    1. Alabama
    2. Florida State
    3. TCU
    4. Baylor

    And all of the Baylor homers let out a collective sigh...

    Edit: Please note the facetious nature of this post.
     
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  14. Bob Barker 007

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    I think making sure that the best team gets in the Playoff matters more than everything else. TCU had a better non-conference schedule than Baylor because they beat Minnesota 30-7. Ohio State beat them 31-24. TCU and Baylor both played Kansas State. TCU beat them by more than Baylor beat them. Big 10 SOS needs to be compared to Big 12 SOS. Beating Wisconsin 59-0 was very good for Ohio State's overall record. To me, though, it is short-sighted to ignore the body of work of the Buckeyes, who really had an easy schedule. That Virginia Tech loss is a serious eyesore, and it is hard for me not to judge Ohio State's win as simply an emotional response to a teammate's death. You can quote me if I'm wrong, but I bet Saban and Alabama eviscerate Ohio State if they play in the Playoff.
     
  15. Shaud

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    Sorry but Ohio St should not be in the top 4 if you factor in how bad that 1st loss was.

    As a VT fan this is by far the worst team Frank Beamer has had in a long time. Well Ohio St. lost at home to Virginia Tech by 14. How in the world is this even up for debate is beyond me.
     
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  16. J Sizzle

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    The committee has said that each week is a blank slate. With the resumes completed now, with head to head finally being factored in, and with equal records in the same conference, there is no reason for TCU to be ahead of Baylor. Baylor beat TCU, looked fairly equal to TCU all year long, and has the two best wins between the two teams (TCU, KSU).

    I don't think FSU should be out of the Top 4. I'm actually in the minority and believe they have a strong case for the top seed, though I understand why they wouldn't get that. FSU undoubtably has to be in the Top 4, though. If they aren't, then the entire committee should be banned.
     
  17. ln3012

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    There's a better chance Oregon would be ranked 1 than ranked out of the top 4. They will likely stay at 2.
     
  18. Shaud

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    If there was no playoff system Florida St would be ranked 1 or 2 right now.
     
  19. Hustle Town

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    I'm wondering why this is being overlooked by seemingly everyone...
     
  20. Hustle Town

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>How the six playoff contenders stack up…<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bama?src=hash">#Bama</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FSU?src=hash">#FSU</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Oregon?src=hash">#Oregon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OhioSt?src=hash">#OhioSt</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TCU?src=hash">#TCU</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Baylor?src=hash">#Baylor</a> <a href="http://t.co/o5bCuk90fB">pic.twitter.com/o5bCuk90fB</a></p>&mdash; David Hale (@DavidHaleESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidHaleESPN/status/541473284530118656">December 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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