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Celtics vs. Hawks - 2012 NBA Playoffs

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ItsMyFault, Apr 24, 2012.

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Who will win this series?

  1. Atlanta in 4

    2.3%
  2. Atlanta in 5

    3.4%
  3. Atlanta in 6

    12.5%
  4. Atlanta in 7

    9.1%
  5. Boston in 4

    3.4%
  6. Boston in 5

    11.4%
  7. Boston in 6

    42.0%
  8. Boston in 7

    15.9%
  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

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    Read below. A "decent" official follows known protocol. A "decent" player won't erupt and do something he knows results in an automatic tech.
    The ref blew the call but his fault ended there. The rest was 100% Rondo.
     
  2. Shaud

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    Only person who has gotten in the face and yelled at the ref and not gotten a tech is Wade.

    If you got a dime for everytime this has happened without a tech being called then you probably don't have 50 cent off this matter.
     
  3. rolyat93

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    True. But you can't blame him for blowing the whistle, dude got in his face like he was gonna fight him or something. Rondo should've known better and not even have put himself in that situation.
     
  4. The Cat

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    Yup. It's a major problem - it starts from the top. The league is unwilling to give the same courtesy to its players that it does to its officials. I'd be much more willing to accept a technical like that if the same "zero tolerance" policy were applied to officials who lost control on their end. Yet, rarely is there any public discipline or reprimand.

    Don't feed me this bull**** about how officiating mistakes are acceptable because they're human when you're not going to be similarly understanding to players. It's human to be upset for a split-second if a tight call goes against you with a playoff game on the line. Officials need to grow up and give players the same courtesy they're seeking for themselves.
     
  5. A_3PO

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    You haven't seen NBA players get away with smacking their hands together in standing face to face in close proximity of a ref. Forget it.
     
  6. CantBeRight

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    Ball on the ground, NBA playoffs, bodies flying every where to try and get the ball, team mate has ball and is yanked away from him, you dive and get ball, Refs call foul and gives other team ball with a minute left to go and you're down 4 in the playoffs.

    Of course you are going to want to talk with the damn ref to try to get the ball back and win.
    But the ref ejects him...

    That's some bs right there.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    The Cat, did you see how Kobe get a technical today? For waving his arms walking back after a no-call.

    Refs have too much power nowadays. That deserved a T. But the refs deserved that by making a terrible call.
     
  8. The Cat

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    I had no idea it was possible to be this blind while watching the NBA. I don't care enough to go through archives (nor do I have access) to find those examples, but I'll be sure and make a note just for you every time I see it this postseason. Expect quite a few.
     
  9. The Cat

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    Seen it thousands of times. I'll keep a running log of all I see this postseason. it will be quite lengthy.
     
  10. CantBeRight

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    And if Rondo was ejected for that what about Chris Paul??

    He argues every single call an I have not seen him get T'd up

    Just goes to show how much the NBA babies superstars.
     
  11. Shaud

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    Umm Rondo was ejected because he bumped the ref. If he didn't bump the ref he wouldn't be ejected. Simple as that.
     
  12. BEAT LA

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    But then there's the crowd that believe if the game is that close then they don't deserve to win. Because no team deserves to win in a close game...even if they have $10 million injured on the bench.
     
  13. The Cat

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    It's one thing to do it in the first half of a game. It can be used as a tool to send a message. But things are called differently in the final minute, especially in the postseason. Think about how many times you've seen a player get absolutely murdered in the final seconds without a whistle, all on the logic that officials "don't want to decide the game" and "no blood, no foul". Along those same lines, you don't call a technical that quickly with 40 seconds left in a tight playoff game.
     
  14. A_3PO

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    You do when a player smacks his hands together in your face. Looking forward to your "lengthy" list.
     
  15. t_mac1

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    There was no message to send in that Laker game. It was as non-physical and methodical of a game as there can be. Refs simply wanted to show their power.

    That's why you saw a flagrant foul call v. Chandler yesterday over a simple screen yesterday.

    Refs are a bunch of wusses nowadays.
     
  16. Shaud

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    Or how about Rondo learn to show more composure.

    No an NBA player asked to control himself. Impossible.:rolleyes:
     
  17. The Cat

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    We agree there.
     
  18. BEAT LA

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    RonDo would be suspended every othher game if he was on the rockets.
     
  19. The Cat

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    Or how about an NBA official make the right calls, and be disciplined when he doesn't?

    Rondo made a mistake, but it's a very human one considering the circumstance. That deserves to be taken into consideration, just as officials want us to remember that "they're human" when they make mistakes and receive no consequences.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    People may claim players are softer than what it was 10-15 years ago. The reffing has also gotten just as soft to facilitate that kind of play.

    Personally, I have no problem with what Rondo did. In a tight game and a ref made a call that basically decided the game, I probably would push him to the side to the chest (my street ball side talking).

    Anyways, hopefully Rondo isn't suspended. The ref brought it upon himself.
     

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