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Cecil Cooper Fired

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by raw10628, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. rockets934life

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    Fregosi could emerge as next manager of Astros...

    http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2009/09/astros_should_t.html

    Ed Wade made two managerial hires in Philadelphia and got both of them right. Terry Francona and Charlie Manuel are among the top 10 managers in the game. If Wade sells Drayton on someone as good as those two, the Astros will be in good shape.
     
  2. MadMax

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    MadMax's coaching candidates:

    1. Dave Duncan







    2. someone else
     
  3. right1

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    I would love to see Brad Ausmus as a player/manager. How many have there been? Was Pete Rose the last? I know that it has been a while...but it's something I would love to see. I think it's pretty cool and Brad would be a good candidate for next year. Love to see a catcher calling the shots from behind home plate...now that would be interesting.
     
  4. juicystream

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    Francona was a failure with the Phillies for what its worth. Hard to call him the right guy when Wade hired him.
     
  5. rockets934life

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    Agree but I think what Justice meant was that he made the right call as far as picking a manager its just wasn't the right fit for that squad. Never been a fan of Manual but can't argue with success so ill give it to the guy, three years ago after they startered 0-6 they were about to run him out of town but now he is beloved in Philly.
     
  6. juicystream

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    He's been with La Russa through 3 different teams, and for over 25 years. Technically speaking, La Russa is a free agent.
     
  7. MadMax

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    St. Louis Dispatch has been reporting he's upset with them...and may not want to return. They traded his son. He took a leave of absence for personal reasons.

    I'd pursue that big time. Let him tell you no. But he'd be my #1 choice.
     
  8. rockets934life

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    He would work magic with Paulino, Norris and maybe Bazardo plus I really think he could bring some talent with him like a Pinero who he has had success with. Duncan would be ideal and if the "letting his son go" thing really got to him with the Cards the Stros can pick him up let him be a utlity guy.
     
  9. MadMax

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    his son got traded to the red sox i think.
     
  10. rockets934life

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    We have a shot...

    2009
    After recovering from surgery that ended his 2008 season, Duncan has hit only .227, with just 5 homers and 32 RBIs in 260 at bats with the Cardinals.

    On July 22, Duncan was optioned to the Cardinals AAA affiliate, the Memphis Redbirds. He was traded later that day to the Boston Red Sox along with a player-to-be-named-later or cash for shortstop Julio Lugo and cash considerations.[4]. As soon as the trade was made, Duncan was optioned to the Red Sox AAA affiliate Pawtucket Red Sox.[5]

    On August 21, 2009, Duncan was released by the Boston Red Sox.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Duncan
     
  11. juicystream

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    The Red Sox cut him. I think he is a FA still.
     
  12. juicystream

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    We could make a trade with the Yankees for his older son, Shelly, and his nephew Eric(Eric was once the Yankees top prospect, but would fit right in with our crappy minor leaguers).
     
  13. rockets934life

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    If it increased our chances of getting Duncan...

    GIT-R-DONE
     
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    At least he has a career record above .500

    DD
     
  16. juicystream

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    If only Morey sidelined as the Astros GM. :D
     
  17. Nick

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    Brad Ausmus?
     
  18. Hippieloser

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    All signs seem to point to the Astros sucking for a long time. :(
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

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    B-R has him at 171-171, is that incorrect?

    Going back 40 years, only 2 of the 12 managers fired by the Astros had losing records with the team.
     
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    Wade, Astros preparing for arduous managerial search

    Don't expect the Astros have a full-time manager in place before the end of the season.

    Astros general manager Ed Wade said club officials have yet to sit down and have in-depth internal conversations with regard to candidate lists, and the process could drag into November, especially if one of the candidates is on a coaching staff that reaches the World Series.

    The Astros on Monday dismissed manager Cecil Cooper after two years and named third base coach Dave Clark interim manager. Clark will be in the mix for the full-time job at season's end.

    "Don't call me a liar if we end up interviewing somebody in the interim," Wade said. "I just don't think it's going to flow at that pace. We'll have our internal discussions and try to come up with a manageable list, and then we'll begin the process at some point thereafter."

    Wade hired two managers while he was general manager of the Phillies - Larry Bowa and Charlie Manuel, who led the Phillies to the World Series championship last year. Wade was an assistant general manager when Terry Francona was hired by the Phillies.

    "I fired Terry, and I told him it was the biggest mistake I ever made in my baseball career," Wade said.

    Wade said he'd like to hire a manager that has managerial experience in the Major Leagues or Minor Leagues and coaching experience if the Majors. That would appear to eliminate Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio, both of whom have had their names surface in the media.

    "I think experience goes a long way," Wade said. "I agree with people that say just about everyone interviews well. I don't think you can be overwhelmed in an interview setting, so you have to look at the individual's body of work and what they've accomplished and what other people have said about them, people that have worked with him.

    "You try to take all that information and make the right decision. I've been fortunate in the time I've been in baseball to work with some outstanding managers. I've worked with guys who were excellent tacticians on the field; I've worked with guys who were great in dealing with players. If you find somebody who can bring all those attributes to the job, you probably have Bobby Cox."

    Wade likes stand-up guys, managers who will pat players on the back when they need it and kick them in the tail when they need it.

    "We're going to have some core veteran guys on the club, we're going to have young guys on the club," Wade said. "There will be a lot of dialogue with the candidates about the dynamics of our team, the dynamics of our roster. We've got to ask them for input how they feel working with a club that's a mixture of veterans and younger guys.

    "There are some managers who are more comfortable or only comfortable with a veteran club, and there are some mangers who are developmentally oriented and like to take young players and see them grow. The way we're going to be comprised next year would indicate a manager has to be willing to do both - work with veteran guys and get their respect and maintain the respect of those players, while at the same time having a willingness to bring the younger kids along and help to build what will become a new core nucleus."
     

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