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Cecil Cooper Fired

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by raw10628, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. msn

    msn Member

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    Dumbass.... yeah, I said it. Dumbass.

    Which franchise, under which owner, hired the first black GM in MLB history?

    If you get the answer right, I'll upgrade your status from 'dumbass' to sincerely misguided.
     
  2. Depressio

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    I hope this opens the door for more Johnson/Maysonet/Manzella/Towles playing time the rest of the season.

    Potential replacements?

    Manny Acta, Bobby Valentine... those would be wonderful.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    never seen a rawer deal.

    i amazed some of justify this
     
  4. Stevierebel

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    I think Manny Acta moves to the top of the list.
     
  5. Landlord Landry

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    I have to say, I am a little suprised.

    Now if we can just fire the bullpen and Matsui. Miggy too.
     
  6. leroy

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    I'd be willing to bet it had something to do with the mandate to play the youngsters and the fact that he was clearly resisting...that and he was a horrible manager.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    you give him a singles lineup, a pissy ass staff, you wouldn't even resign wolf, then your best player has an off year, so does your best pitcher, but hey lets fire the manager
     
  8. HeyDude

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    Sucks to be him, but the players never did like him much. And that'll usually get you fired, unless you're a very good manager...which in Coops case, he wasnt... :(
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What?
     
  10. HeyDude

    HeyDude Contributing Member

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    Still, if you watched most of the games, Coop was a part of the problem as well.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    you can can the team a dumbass all you want.

    So the blame for players not doing their job and complaining about it the whole way is Coops?

    So the fact that they inserted over the hill starting pitchers is Coops.

    that they played AAA players since last week to end the season?

    This is BS and you may not want to believe whats in your face so that's your fault but if its anyones fault this team failed so miserably it's ED WADE'S!
     
  12. msn

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    No problem with any of these statements. Perhaps Coop did get a raw deal. But to play the race card as the reason is myopic and stupid.

    No upgrade in status for you.
     
  13. leroy

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    Ed Wade gave him a mandate to play Johnson and Manzella more. Manzella hasn't seen the field since the 16th and Cooper said he wouldn't until after the St. Louis series. I'm wondering if they went back to Cooper and told him again to play the kids and he flat out said no. Why else fire him with only 13 games left in the season?

    Why are you defending Cooper here? Yes, the players played like s*** for most of the season. It's pretty clear, however, that Cooper was a poor manager who had lost the clubhouse some time ago. I don't exactly agree with the timing, but this was going to happen one way or another.
     
  14. br0ken_shad0w

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    That still doesn't excuse his terrible moves he has done. The IBB to pitch to Hanley Ramirez was the straw that broke my back.

    Of course, the Astros still have the problem of being a terribly-run franchise.
     
  15. FLASH21

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    I third that.
     
  16. msn

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    I can think of several things Coop did this year that were real head-scratchers, so he is not without culpability, but...

    ...I certainly see where you're coming from. When was the last time these players were really held accountable? You know, for sucking?

    The idiot that keeps ordering T-shirts needs to get cut or shipped out of town for a 1A-bench warmer and mebbe a six-pack.

    Guys who don't run out grounders need to be immediately benched the rest of the game.

    But yeah, Coop could have done a better job but it wouldn't have made this team not suck. Because they suck. :(

    I wanted to see Coop succeed, too.
     
  17. Major Malcontent

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    Drayton is an over-involved finger in every pie boss, who wasn't even a baseball fan before he bought the Astros. He loves the splashy, flashy big name signings, then tries to scrimp in other areas at the cost of wins. He doesn't really understand that unless you are the Yankees, or BoSox that sometimes you have to be bad to get really good again.

    However, he does care about the team, and he is not, repeat not a racist. To imply otherwise is asinine.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    hmm

    :rolleyes:
     
  19. MadMax

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    Agreed. But that's not the point. You don't have to blame the season on him to still think he's not the right guy. I think his in-game decisions leave tons to be desired, regardless of who is on his roster.

    I'm hoping this isn't the only change.
     
  20. FLASH21

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    To go along with the horrible players????
     

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