CD on 610am. Mike make less $$ but still choose Min.

You pay state taxes in the state where you earned your income: I am a college student in California and have my permanent residence in Pennsylvania, but since I work for the school I pay taxes to California instead of Pennsylvania.

 

Makes sense to me, so what was CD's intention to spin this to his advantage?

 

Moron! Which planet are you on?

 

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC the big problem with the trade kicker is related to the salary cap.

As I understand it for cap purposes the player's salary for the team that is trading him away is equal to their "pre-kicker" salary, while the team that is trading for him treats his salary as salary plus kicker. This makes the "cost" of a trade kicker more than just the cash transaction, but also creates a situation where it is more difficult to trade a player who has one under the rules of the salary cap.

 

Wrong, he has to pay the Minny state tax, no loophole there. The bottom line is Mike James never wanted to come back to Houston. He just wanted payback. Come on our offer was exactly the same but he would have saved almost 1.5 million in state tax had he come back to Houston. But then at the last minute he comes up with he needs a trade kicker. And CD says to his agent we don't do that tell him to call me. I am certain if he had called CD and said I have to have the trade kicker or I am signing with Minny CD would have at least entertained the option but no he doesn't call back and discuss the possibility. His agent calls back and says it's a done deal.

He never intended to return he just wanted his revenge. Payback's a b****!

In the end he said I only wanted to comeback for the fans. Sorry I am not buying it. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Yeah Houston screwed you around and yeah you got your revenge. But remember when your freezing in subzero temperatures, masturbating to p*rn to keep warm, revenge is bittersweet.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/394143p-334187c.html

 

ROFL

 

According to CD, he was surprised that MJ didn't accept the offer and he thought the negotiation was going well. But any one who watched the vedio when MJ came back from Vegas knew he was not happy with the Rocket's offer. How could CD think Rockets were doing very well? I don't believe MJ gave him no time before he made the decision to with minny.

Again, MJ was right when he said money was not the most important factyor since he did choose a team with less money (considering the tax). I am sure he was sincerely hoping to paly for the Rockets to stay with his family in Houston. He only needs some respects (how can you say you love him so much but just not willing to pay a small price if you decide to dump him later again, like you did before). It really doesn't matter how he and minny work out in the end, for us, the Rockets are the biggest loser.

 

DOOD thats TOTAL BS. Will signing of MJ bring in significant fan base like Roger? HELL NO. Will signing MJ make the Rockets an instant championship contender? NO. Will the signing of MJ draw more FAs to the Rockets? Again, HELL NO. Your analogy is totally flawed as baseball and basketball are totally different, and not to mention Roger is bondafide HOF while MJ is a career journeyman. Everytime Roger steps on the field he instantly gives the Astros a fair chance of winning. With or with MJ the Rockets will be a playoff teams.

 

We're not looking just to get into the playoffs. We did that in 2005. We would have been there this year if not for the injuries. We were trying to get Mike James so we could get a third player that can get his shot and get it effeciently. Yeah, he would put .....s in the seats because he makes us a 55+ win team.

I tell you what, let the Astros stay out of the playoff race in August and let's see how many people Clemens puts in the seats.

It's all about winning rookie.

 

Me too. Last minute, how last it was? Obviously Minny proposed something better and we didnt match.
So for those out there trying brain gymnastic to defend CD et el, give it up. It wasnt a calculated move not to sign MJ. It was all mistake in the negotiation.

 

Man I am sorry but get over Car and Sfrancis- they did not do a squat for us.

Mchale had no choice - if he pisses off Garnett then he basically will never have an NBA job. This is their Last chance at retaining Garnett in Minny!

 

The Rockets were right not to give Mike James the trade kicker. I think they would have lost credibility to Yao and Tracey if they gave it to Mike and it would have set a precedent. The next guy would have said give me that trade kicker that you gave Mike James ... I am better than him. Do you give that guy a trade kicker also? How can you tell him no especially if you really want him.

He would have been a nice addition, but big deal. Everyone calm down ... this is Mike James. I know that the lack of free agents has gotten people riled up, but this is not that big of a deal.

 

Well, CD/Rockets was too complacent. I don't think they understand the man they were dealing with very well.

They counted on their offer being larger by the virtue of state taxes. The usual "he'll take the most money" stuff. But for Mike James, it's more about "show me the love" than "show me the money". A higher contract by the absence of state taxes is not "more love".

And if you think a ticker doomed precedence, I don't think you understand business.

 

That would be incredibly funny if he went to Minnesota because they gave him a trade kicker, then halfway through the season they trade Kevin Garnett. I honestly have no problem with Mike James wanting some stability in his life, but man, I hope that happens. It would crack me up.

 

My read on that particular line of Feigan's article was that the "inflated, panic prices" he mentioned was not a reference to Mike James' demands, but rather a recommendation to the Rockets not to act in desperation and overpay their next FA target because they lost out on MJ.

 

it took me 10 minutes to encode this post

my english is not perfect, but this was freakin hard to understand

anyways, thanks for the info....

can we get over this

fact is, houston org f up MJ first, he had his revange, good luck to him...we have to move on and make some big moves

bring Spanoulis asap!

 

That is bad business to give in to him. It's a beautiful thing to say to someone we have never done it and that's our policy. It's unshakeable. Think of all of the great players that have come through the Rockets organization and none of them got the trade kicker. Is a MLE player worthy? Is he more deserving than previous Rocket players? I think not.