[CBS Sports] Rockets, Bulls hoping to re-open talks?

I would imagine that Morey would try to use multiple first rounders (plus maybe additional players/assets) to move up in the draft to pick a future impact player.

But, again, I just don't see the Rockets coming away with first round picks of note.

 

definitely.

hinrich is a good player who's contract gets lower each year. by this time next season he might be a pretty valuable piece.

plus the bulls pick will be mid first round. having 2 picks (our and theirs) in that range allows for a lot of options, including moving up, on draft day.

 

as we were talking about earlier,

i think the bulls might be willing to part with their first rounder because they are putting a premium on cap space. the guaranteed contract of the pick might contradict that goal.

 

Yeah, the Bulls are the only team that I could see giving up their first rounder like that. But even then, I would expect that pick to go to a third team in exchange for some better talent in a three-way deal.

That, or the Rockets would probably be giving up Scola in such a deal.

 

i'd be ok with that. the truth is, scola probably isn't worth resigning unless you know yao will return to all-star form. if not, then trading a 30 year old for a 20 year old is the direction you need to move... and a mid first rounder is decent value for scola considering his age. especially if it helps us move into the lotto by packaging that with our own mid first rounder (or late lotto).

 

I don't like that idea. I'm glad you clarified how much Hill is making. He has raw talent for sure. I'm all right with Hill as we have the option of re-signing Scola and Kyle.
A sign and trade with Luis and Shane may be more intriguing along with our 1st round pick for a 2nd tier star who can help us,if we are lucky.

 

i'm not so sure about that.

any team interested in shane and scola would have to be in "win now" mode. in that case, they wouldn't trade one of their stars. the way to get value for these players are to move them for picks in order to develop your own star.

 

I didn't think of it that way. I think the chances of what I suggested is low.I think you're right. I was putting too much hope in our 1st round pick.

 

our first round pick might be pretty valuable in the late lotto. we might be able to move up into the top 10 if we had an extra first round pick, or jordan hill, etc.

 

I wonder if the following trade would make sense to both teams:

Shane Battier ($6.9M) to Memphis for Steven Hunter ($3.6M expiring contract) and the Grizzlies' first round pick (top 8 protected?)

The Griz (who are under the cap and can take on Shane's larger salary) get that wing defender they so desperately need for a playoff push, while not risking losing out on John Wall if they somehow win the lottery or otherwise go down the toiler in the second half of the year.

The Rockets get a pretty decent pick (could be anywhere between #11 and #18) plus open up an additional $6M or so in cap room (after factoring in the extra first round pick's salary slot). Unfortunately, Morey very well might be sealing this season's team's fate and opening the door for Memphis to beat out Houston for one of the final Western Conference playoff spots.

Discuss.

 

^^^Oh, and the Rockets get under the luxury tax without having to trade McGrady or to pay someone to take on Brian Cook.

 

I'm assuming Hunter is an expiring contract? He can't get off the bench in Memphis. Something else to consider... Denver traded Hunter and a lottery protected 2010 first-round draft pick to the Memphis Grizzlies for a future second-round pick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hunter


Yuck!!

 

In this situation what happens if Memphis winds up with a top 8 pick?

I like it though, as a small deadline move to prepare for the off-season.

 

Uh . . . I just said that he was. And this trade would have nothing to do with Steven Hunter other than he is an expiring contract who, when combined with Memphis's remaining cap space, makes the salaries work.

Presumably, the pick's protection would either remain the same or diminish over time. For example, if the Griz get a top 8 pick in 2010, the protection could go down to top 5 protected in 2011. If the Griz then get a top 5 pick in 2011, it could be UNPROTECTED in 2012.

This is essentially what happened with the Knicks' 2010 pick. They traded a heavily protected future first rounder back in 2004. The problem was, the Knicks were so bad for so long, that the pick never fell outside the protection. That is, until the pick became unprotected in 2010.

That said, I doubt Memphis picks in the top 10 this year.


FYI . . . I posted this trade proposal in the "Shane Battier Trade Thread", since I figured that was a more appropriate forum for this discussion.

 

Memphis gets the Lakers' and the Nuggets' 1st round picks this year. I think they would be more inclined to move those picks.

Maybe Dorsey (local boy whose single non-suck game was against the Grizz) + Battier (still well-loved there in Memphis) for Hunter and Memphis' OWN pick; MAYBE.

 

Sorry. I read over 500 words per minute and sometimes I scan right by something. Heck, I wish I had seen that, because it would have saved me the trouble of googling it! I agree about the Memphis pick, though. The odds are good that we could use it this year, for the pick or to move up. I just don't like the idea of moving Shane for something like that. Portland was always where I thought we might deal him.

 

make it a 3 team deal where hunter and scola go to chicago for salmons and their first round pick and your in good position to rebuild on the fly.

what about this trade:

knicks get: tmac, thomas
bulls get: harrington, scola
rockets get: hill, salmons, hughes, bulls first round pick

knicks get their man in tmac. they also complete the harrington for thomas trade they've been toying with. bulls clear cap space for next year, and improve their team this year by adding post scoring... costs them a pick which is fair i think.

as for the rockets, they can cut hughes. on draft night they can look to package their pick with the bulls pick and maybe even hill in an attempt to move into the high lotto and land a future star.