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CBS Reporter's opinion on the campaigns

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, Oct 9, 2008.

  1. IROC it

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    What's wrong with shooting yourselves in the foot repeatedly while people realize Obama was their lawyer at one point? :confused:
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    LOL, delusion. when most of the electorate find out obama was their lawyer, the question they'll ask is, why does an oak tree seed need a lawyer.


    nobody cares dude
     
  3. IROC it

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    Typical liberal defense... "Whatever."


    That's laughable and scary at the same time. :D :eek:



    It's also the way of the ninja coward.


    Run and hide... and do nothing about your candidate.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    running away from what. I don't care. that's my answer. i vote on more important issues.
     
  5. IROC it

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    I vote along issues of character, and policy. As one of the greatest leaders of our time would have it that way. It was his dream.


    "That one day a man would be judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character."




    Deal with it. You need to care. The country needs you to care.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Registering people and weeding out suspicious registrations isn't shooting yourself in the foot.

    Are you advocating they should cover up people's fraudulent or suspicious registrations so they don't look like they were shooting themselves in the foot?
     
  7. IROC it

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    How about, registering people CORRECTLY in the first place... And not being so self-defeatist by wasting more time and resources.

    See... it's not that the "gun" is the problem... it's the misuse of the "gun." They keep shooting themselves in the foot... wasting their own efforts.

    If Americans start to demand ALL of the registrations be thrown out to eliminate any chance of fraud, then they've wasted all that time with nothing to show for it.

    That's why I used the aptly placed cliche' phrase.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    They aren't responsible if the person filling out the registration lies, or makes glaring errors.

    It's nice of you to want them to be efficient, and that is a great goal for ACORN. But that isn't really that big of an issue to tarnish Obama with.
     
  9. IROC it

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    Again, the character issue is lost in the generation gap. :(
     
  10. pgabriel

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    says the guy who posted this

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    nice character
     
  11. IROC it

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    Exactly. We need to notice the same character that once fueled revolutionaries is now fueling Obama.


    Thanks for bringing that education to the younger demographic... for me.


    All too easy.
     
  12. finalsbound

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    John McCain sure has character. Cheating on and then leaving your crippled wife is so noble. As is calling your second wife a trollup and a c***. What a man of character that myself as a woman and a Christian can unequivocally support. I don't know, the fact that the conservative Christians I know can completely ignore his past and at the same time call Clinton's presidency a travesty and a failure because of his sexual miconduct...I can't wrap my mind around that. Everything is so damn black and white.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    all we need to notice is he's gonna win because that's what people want, deal with it, its the american system
     
  14. Rashmon

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    You speak of character as if McCain and Palin are displaying it as an example.

    If you believe their candidacy has displayed character, my friend, you have become delusional.
     
  15. IROC it

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    BTW- If you'll recall, the Che comparisons were originally made in Team Obama headquarters around the nation...

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    Thanks for opening the discussion up so the FACTS of the matter could be revealed so succinctly.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    and just like mccain's campaign person made racists comments, that office was immediately contacted to remove those posters.

    so by your logic, mccain is a racist
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    The facts are that those were not from Obama headquarters. You should get your FACTS straight.

    From the Obama campaign -
    It is a poor example of character to try and slander someone because of something a volunteer out of the control of that person does.
     
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    I understand those concerns. A basic tenet of Christianity is forgiveness.


    Upon review myself of those events in McCain's life, I have both read, and heard the man from his own mouth admit that his actions were wrong. I have also firmly followed the similar discussion concerning Obama's lack of denouncing of his relationships to certain incendiary individuals that lead me to a character issue. There is a pattern. Old timers used to say, "birds of a feather flock together." I have often said, when speaking to youth groups, "show me your friends and I'll show you who you are." We all gravitate toward similar character traits.

    An episode in our lives, however, does not a character flaw make. And when forgiveness for mistakes is requested, and the party in question demonstrates a thorough grasp on why what they did was wrong, you cannot deny them the forgiveness they seek.

    If a man stands and asks that he be forgiven it is one thing. And it is further my obligation to forgive. If a man dismisses a concern many Americans have, I must remain in limbo and still seek an answer.

    Once forgiven, and once the character (that is developed from perseverance and discipline in the face of failure) of a man can be seen, after years of living it before the public, I can then say without any reservation that between the two candidates, only one man has shown the bravery of admitting mistakes, the courage of asking to be forgiven, and the resolve and determination to not only live according to his new found discipline, but the willingness to patch up the relationship that was once so tattered.

    It was an article on snopes that shows that McCain's first wife is supporting him, disproving also that many of the angles of the story of that relationship have been embellished.

    I do not condone having extra marital affairs... pre-marital, or adulterous... but I would venture that John McCain in his own words has repeatedly said the same as it pertained to his own life experiences with his first wife.

    Furthermore, during the recent Saddleback Forum, McCain re-intimated that his divorce was his "greatest moral failure." I think he gets it. I think he understands what he did was wrong. Up until that point, and reading the snopes link I honestly had my doubts. I talked repeatedly to my own wife about whether or not he was the candidate I'd vote for. I heard what I needed to hear. I cannot think he would expose that weakness in such transparency if he was not being truthful about his regret and sorrow.

    I cannot be sure that Obama gets why the country is abuzz with inquisition toward his past, and present, radical relationships. Instead I still see snide comebacks and vague responses.

    Here is the link to the snopes.com article... http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/carol.asp -the full page contains info that much of what was circulated about McCain was edited and embellished. It ends stating that Carol has been quoted as saying, "He is a good guy. We are still good friends. He is the best man for president."

    If she can forgive the man, I can too.


    I am not asking anyone to change their opinions based on hearsay. I am asking it to be looked into by every single person for themselves... just as I would anything else. I seldom take second or third hand information and run with it. I trust no one else will either.

    What I know about the Ayers / Obama issue is all public record. I have read about it myself. I have not taken it lightly as some have. Maybe I'm wrong for that... but I have a serious caution inside when these things come to light.

    The thing I ask is this, "If it had absolutely zero credibility, would the mainstream media now be talking about it?"

    I suggest we each re-examine both sides of the story in both camps.
     
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    Look at the photo properties of each photo I posted... follow the links... or better yet, simply do an image search on google for "Che Guevara Obama" and look at the links they are in.

    Each one indicates them as Obama headquarters for certain locales.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Ohhhhh. I'm sorry I didn't realize you were attacking volunteers who aren't paid for or under control of Barack Obama. I thought you were trying to somehow say something against Obama.

    If you want to spend your time going after volunteers that aren't in any way under the control of Obama's campaign you may. I won't stop you.
     

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