umm dude use some common sense here. What do you think happens when a mob of crazy thugs attacks a woman. They just wanted to cop a feel? Have you ever read headlines of those pedophile kidnappers? It's very similar. They always use the term sexual assault. Do you think those men also just kidnap a 8 year old girl to cop a feel? or touch her? Yes its a horrible tragedy and we all hope she will be okay and recover psychologically and physically. Definitely a horrible incident and there isnt much light you can make out of it.
That has been the case of what we've been told, but the point remains we don't know yet who did it and / or who they support. You said you would go out on a limb, and he agreed that you did. I guess that you were irked by his claim that not all anti-mubarak protesters were peaceful, but I don't think he was citing incidence or liability as much as stating the possibility of it being ANYONE, as there are always bad apples in any bunch, and that we didn't know who it was yet. I think the rest of his post was true. Regardless, finding out won't change anything. What happened is a terrible side effect of chaos such as this.
Incredible. I hope she's physically OK. Mentally, she'll suffer for a very long time and may never really recover. Some sexual assault victims don't.
Really? Given that the pro-Mubarak people are the ones blaming foreign reporters for everything on State TV, and pro-Mubarak people are the ones attacking and detaining journalists during the course of recent events, it does not appear "out on a limb" to suggest that an angry mob attacking foreign reporters is likely to be a pro-Mubarak crowd. We don't know for sure who did it yet, but it would seem strange for 200 anti-Mubarak protesters, who were helped by the foreign press coverage and happy with the result of recent events, to randomly attack a foreign reporter. What do they gain from it? Certainly not good publicity for post-Mubarak Egypt. Those with a vested interest in seeing Egypt succeed without the "order" imposed by Mubarak would not seem to have any reason to be "raping e'er'body out there."
Right, people who are about to rape someone ponder whether this generates good publicity for their country first...
It's not one single random rapist. It's (part of) a crowd of 200 people who were running around angry on the day that Mubarak stepped down. Now, what kind of group of 200 people do you think are running around angry, particularly at foreign reporters, on the day that Mubarak stepped down? You think it's 200 anti-Mubarak/pro-democracy guys celebrating the success of the revolution by attacking and raping a foreign reporter? Or did you just watch some youtube video about how there's something in the Koran obligating Muslims to rape foreign women when a regime falls?
Actually, I imagine public image is probably very high up on the list of what most Egyptians care about right now.
umm its going out on a limb because in times of chaos you get all sorts of crazy people. What happens during a riot? or a disaster? like Katrina? you get all the rapists and looters. Why does this tragedy have to be tied to politics? or if you are pro or anti mubarack? I have said it all along in this thread the only fact you can draw is that Egypt is in a lot of chaos and its going to remain in chaos till they form some new form of Govt/Order.
So, there are just 200 random angry and crazy Egyptian looters looking to rape white women, right? If so, one would imagine there would be a lot more post-revolution looting and widespread chaos after Mubarak's resignation. Has that been the case?
I think we can safely say that most Egyptians are not rapists. His point is clear, and to be fair, he did himself say he would "go out on a limb," but point is... we don't know.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/feb/03/journalists-attacked-in-egypt-protests First paragraph, practically verbatim wording: "Journalists from the BBC, al-Jazeera, and other Arab news organisations were today facing fresh attacks from pro-government "thugs" after an escalation of violence in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, overnight." Don't like the Guardian? How about Yahoo: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecu...ne/journalists-get-attacked-arrested-in-egypt "Supporters of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak attacked pro-democracy protesters and targeted journalists in Cairo on Wednesday. The Cutline reported yesterday on pro-Mubarak mobs going after journalists from CNN, CBS, ABC and numerous international news outlets." Google it up. I used the terms: reporters assaulted egypt. FACT: The assaults on reporters were by pro-Mubarak people. This woman is a reporter. Is it really that far out on a limb to say it was Mubarak supporters that did it? You say that it "totally" is, and while I say it is because we don't know everything, I don't think it's as far out as you're insinuating. Agree to disagree, perhaps.
The protesters on the side that just lost probably don't care about image. Besides, unless I'm mistaken, hasn't every incident in Egypt with American reporters come from protesters on the pro-Mubarak side?
I don't know, I was just pointing out how mind-numbingly stupid your assertion was that someone who is about to rape someone would think about the country's public image in that moment.
It's "mind-numbling stupid" to think that a crowd of 200 anti-Mubarak protesters out celebrating the downfall of the Mubarak regime would not be thinking about the country's public image before deciding to attack a foreign journalist? My point is that it's fairly obvious that these people are most likely not among the pro-Mubarak crowd. In fact, the people most likely to form an angry mob and collectively attack, and rape, a foreign journalist in Egypt have been those affiliated with the Mubarak regime. In fact, elements of that regime has a history of doing such things, it's just that they used to arrest you first and then do it at the police stations and prisons. And they mostly did it to Egyptians opposing to the regime. No, angry mob who are raping a foreign journalist don't care about the country's image, but the anti-Mubarak people, who were talking to foreign journalists during the protests and out there picking up trash and cleaning up Tahrir Square thereafter appear to care about the country's image and are unlikely to be parts of angry mobs raping women for a number of reasons.
