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CBS pulls Reagan Miniseries

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by twhy77, Nov 4, 2003.

  1. Deckard

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    I hardly ever watch network TV anymore, but I find it sad that CBS would cancel a multimillion dollar production, which most people probably would have been amused by, because of political pressure. It just stupid TV, for crying out loud. It's fiction. It's a show. It's fantasy. It's not real life.

    It's just TV.
     
  2. rimbaud

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    That is more Burroughs-esque and less Tzara. Oh well, at least he is out there at all.
     
  3. giddyup

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    Two of Reagans premier biographers were not even consulted about the script... nor was Ed Rollins. That's odd.

    The pressure came from the sponsors who were wanting to pull out fearful of repercussions not from the griping of the RNC.
     
  4. Apollo Creed

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    I think that if you're going to be making a television program about someone, especially without their input, you should at least make it as true and faithful to real life as possible. Those who say it's fiction are forgetting that they were playing it off as based on reality.
     
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    Yes you are correct. None of those shows should be on television. I could care less if they demonize Reagan using the plenty of real facts that are out there to demonize him with or used make up stuff to demonize him. I could care less if they made a movie making him look Christ-like.

    The whole thing sounded like horrible television, and I'm glad it's gone. Just because there are other horrible shows on TV or soon to be on television is no reason we can't rejoice because this one is gone.
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    Exactly. If it wasn't supposed to be based on reality, what was the point in doing it in the first place?

    I wouldn't watch crap like that even if it were about Clinton. Most of us have minds of our own and we don't need our "history" interpreted for us then spoon fed to us like we're mindless baboons. Especially via some lame network docu-drama. CBS probably just figured (correctly) that no one would watch it and pulled it.
     
  7. mc mark

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    And who do you think was pressuring the sponsors?

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    GOP Leans on CBS to Protect the Reagan Legacy

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51254-2003Nov1.html
     
  8. Oski2005

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    I'm pretty sure everybody would watch a lie filled Clinton movie. Even if you know they aren't true, the lies that float around about him would make an interesting movie nonethe less. A president having people offed like a commom mob boss, that's be hard to pass up.
     
  9. giddyup

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    The RNC et al, no doubt.

    Could it be, though, that the sponsors were responsive to a logical argument that this project was inaccurate and destructive? Just maybe...

    It's time for that constipated.... er, make that diarrheatic, elephant to fly over the land!
     
  10. SamFisher

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    Right giddyup, that must have been it, and maybe they will pull advertising from Joe Millionaire because it is at heart, dishonest............
     
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    Weren't they going to do a p*rn based on the Starr report, with actors who looked Monica and Bill? Just wondering.
     
  12. mc mark

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    ;)
     
  13. giddyup

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    Two things: 1. Biography and 2. Living President
     
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    To believe that this movie was anything but a hatchet job is naive. You can always count on the fact that some people will believe it because it's on TV. It's got to be true, right? Just like the evening news with Dan Rather. :)

    If you want a piece of fiction about a president, watch The American President or, better yet, Dave. You don't create a fictional work (more accurately, an historical fiction work) based on the life of a living president--not unless your intent is to either cast him in a better light than he deserves or a worse light than he deserves. The fact that both the director and the actors who made the Reagan movie don't want any part of an edited version is telling. I wouldn't be surprised if their reason for making it was to harm his reputation. Would some people do the same thing to Clinton if they could (i.e., make an inaccurate movie for the purpose of harming his reputation)? I have no doubt that they would. Does that mean it's okay to do it to Reagan? Not really.
     
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    what an excellent, well-reasoned post.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    You can speculate about it all you want, but you're delusional if you think that CBS pulled that miniseries because of anything other than the bottom line.
     
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    As I understand it, the program will still be available on Showtime.
     
  18. MR. MEOWGI

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    Jeepers, all of this Reagan talk makes me want to throw on some Dead Kennedys... from the album In God We Trust Inc. 1981

    We've Got A Bigger Problem Now

    Last call for alcohol, last call for free of speech. Drink up, happy hours now inforced by law. Don't forget our house special, it's call the chicky-diggy screwdriver...

    I am emperor Ronald Reagan
    Born again with fascist craving
    Still, you made me President

    Human rights will soon go 'way
    I am now your Shah today
    Now I command all of you
    Now you're gonna pray in school
    And I'll make sure they're christian too

    California Über Alles
    California Über Alles
    Über Alles California
    Über Alles California

    Ku Klux Klan will control you
    Still you think it's natural
    ****** knockin' for the master race
    Still you wear a happy face

    You closed your eyes, can't happen here
    Alexander Haig is near
    Vietnam won't come back you say
    Join the army or you will pay
    Join the army or you will pay

    California Über Alles
    California Über Alles
    Über Alles California
    Über Alles California

    Welcome to 1984
    Are you ready for the Third World War?
    You too will meet the secret police
    They'll draft you and they'll jail your niece

    You'll go quietly to boot camp
    They'll shoot you dead, make you a man
    Don't you worry, it's for a cause
    Feeding global corporations' claws

    Die on our brand new poison gas
    El Salvador or Afghanistan
    Making money for President Reagan
    Making money for President Reagan
    And all the friends of President Reagan

    California Über Alles
    California Über Alles
    Über Alles California
    Über Alles California
     
  19. giddyup

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    I was the first to point that out. I cited pressure from sponsors who were wanting to pull out. Do you just <b>have</b> to argue with me or something?! :D

    I backed you up on Michael Moore. Show a little love...
     
  20. SamFisher

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    :confused: I thought you said it was because they had second thoughts about truth and honor and dignity?

    Ehh, I was never that into this thread anyway. I'll concede whatever it was we were arguing.
     

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