If they don't redo the contract somehow then he is 100% a cap casualty. $16 million cap hit if they keep him next year on his current deal.
Before this incident, it was a very high likelihood that he'd be a casualty and something would have to be figured out. 16 million for one receiver slot is just too much. After his rant, he can tell the Texans that he is willing to be loyal...and in return, they can be loyal to him. He then gets paid in 2015.
Do you even know what you argue against? Do you just talk for the sake of wanting attention or something? Who gives a **** who's problem it is. Nobody said it's anyone's problem. Dre will get paid is guaranteed money, so it's not the Texans problem either. They did their part bc Dre knows that he's signing deals based on guaranteed money. Andre shouldnt be around for 16 million, unless he wants to handicap filling in other pieces of the team. If he's okay with a 16 million cap hit for the team, he shouldnt whine about not winning a Superbowl. You cant always have your cake and eat it to. That's the whole point of this. Does Andre want to get paid or does Andre want to win? Very hard to have both, as evidenced by receiver salaries/cap hits on winning teams.
If a team decides to get rid of a player, they still have to give him the guaranteed money. If a player decides to throw a fit and get traded/cut he still gets his guaranteed money. Would you be cool with this system: Team cuts player by choice, player gets guaranteed money. Player holds out/demands trade/demands release, player loses guaranteed money. That seems fair to me, does it to you? The current system favors the player financially. They CHOOSE to trade control of their ability to change teams for financial security. You think it's unfair because a team can cut a player, but the team still has to pay the player any money they agreed to guarantee.
Arguing...??? No arguing on this end. So let me get this straight. Are you saying Dre should take less money...?
Well yes, he should take less than $16 million. However, that's not really what he'll get paid next year. Nobody is arguing he should play for a discount so don't feel bad for him. What we are saying is that if he is going to be here he'd have to restructure that deal, probably sign an extension that gets him more guaranteed money but levels out the cap hit. He's not getting $16 million next season but he has a cap hit of $16 million. That's unbearable for a team. Andre's terrible cap number is part of the reason the Texans have been in a cap trouble for a few years now.
Paying Cushing and Schaub might be a bigger part of the reason. Especially since Cushing hasn't been on the field. And don't get me started on J-Jo's ridiculous contract... That dude is stealing money. Dre is not the reason the Texans are in the cap situation they are in now. But players usually only take pay cuts when they are on a contending team... Not a 2-14 team...
You using the phrase "pay cut" is leading me to believe you don't understand the cap at all and that makes this conversation pretty pointless.
It's also another reason why his "let me play for a winner!" argument is so silly. If Andre wasn't willing to do things on his end to bolster his chances of winning a title (not signing extensions if he doesn't trust the Texans, not taking a cheaper contract so Texans can put more talent around him), it doesn't seem logical to expect the Texans to harm themselves in pursuit of that cause.
Excuse me. Restructure. And Dre doesn't have to restructure his contract. That's why he has more leverage than people think. If the team ends up burning it up this season and make the playoffs _ maybe he will. But if they don't... He can just force the Texans hand and make them cut him (by refusing to restructure) and go to a contender for less money. And we end up with nothing to show for it.
I don't view it as a "good test", I see it as more of a game that the team ought to win, however, if they don't it says a lot of bad things about the team. IMO the Giants, the Cowboys, the Colts....those are the real "good tests" early in the schedule, games that could go either way.
So they can cut him next year and have no cap penalties or dead money on the books and be free and clear...?
They save approximately 9 million in cap space by cutting him next season...which is currently equivalent to or more than what Brandon Marshall, Victor Cruz, Roddy White, etc... make in salary for 2014.
I understand why he'd be upset about being set up to be a cap casualty, and it makes sense why he'd want a new contract that would ensure he'd be a Texan for 2 or 3 more years, but I also understand why they wouldn't give it to him. It does seem that this whole ordeal has been about financial stability, he wants more than essentially a one year contract to buy in to the rebuild. If all he wanted was to go to a contender, he'll get his chance next year as a cap casualty.
