Like do you want kids to learn G-Code and how to operate a CNC machine during social studies class? Or are you saying high school math and science isn't rigorous enough? Are you saying high school math and science is taken over by woke politics? Are you saying that social studies type classes(non hard sciences) shouldn't be taught in grade school and only hard sciences there prepare for skilled labor? I just want some nuance here to better understand what spefically you have an issue with in terms of grade schools not being proficient in making humans employable.
College is getting harder to get into. Many kids are doing much better than even 10 years. Look at admission stats at UT. Its only top 6% now. Look at UCs or any of the better public schools US schools are getting pretty competitive.
You want serious answers but want to belittle the conversation. I specifically said the whole education system. For a serious reply, we should front load education (early years) with the most resources (money and skilled teachers). This experiment of giving kids a shitty foundation in the early years and some how expect college to some how make up for it is idiotic, all while saddling then with tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Most kids do not need college. Multiple 6 month paid internships over 4-5 years will go a lot further than what colleges are offering today. Yes, industry and government will need to adopt. Im not advocating the dismantling of the university system. It should just be much more exclusive (not to be confused with elite). And yes, I am fully aware a kid leaving high school can't jump right into being a brain surgeon so feel free to leave that at the doorstep.
Elite schools (ie: ones where students are getting a valued education) are getting harder to get into. Anyone can get into a diploma mill. We are absolutely in a college education bubble and it will pop.
This has nothing to do with the quality of the education but rather... This might be a shocker so sit down... There is a limited supply of skilled proffesional jobs and there always will be. So ya, not everyone can be a skilled tech, engineer, lawyer, doctor etc. There will always be a contingent of the population due to limiting factors such as brain development or birth defects, that can only perform low skilled labor jobs. I belittle your conversation because it's all platitudes with no specific criticism of our education system. Sorry bud. But the inevitable dilemma our society is going to face is choosing between giving everyone a basic income or being selective through force of who can procreate with strict limitations on who can't. We as a society will eventually have to make there decision. Everything in between is merely kicking the can down the road.
Ya dont say?? Lets loop back to what I said, which you have obviously conveniently forgotten just to be a contrarian. No only do we bring back high skilled manufacturing, but we should increase our exports. Holy ****! what a novel idea! More skilled jobs! Not only will we have more jobs, we will increase the health of our supply chain, which obviously was exposed during COVID. Yes, I understand that is a fraction of the overall solution. We dont need everyone to be technical. There is plenty of room for those who desire creative work and other means of work. Point being is that a country's population needs to be productive in some form or fashion. Yes, kids need to enter adulthood with more than a standard marginally better than what was set a 100 years ago. Yes, we should consider coding as a language and it should be introduced at a very early age. Its a language used to communicate with machines and its becoming more and more important. We dont teach kids the basic skills of reading and writing in high school for a very good reason. You're not going to solve poverty and social issues with a shitty education system only to hand them out a few UBI dollars when they become non functioning adults once they get out of school. Again, contrarian. We have a plethora of jobs available for those with low IQ. Yes, society should help these people, but this is not the conversation at hand. No, you belittle people because its your general nature. Anyone can be a sarcastic critical prick. The world is full of them. Fortunately I have more confidence the US will be more than a service economy. What is the point of education in the first place if the top 20% are parenting the lower 80%. This is what leads to a caste system. Ask India how well thats worked for them.
Funny enough the goal of education for our founders was not under the paradigm of creating skilled labor but rather just having a rational informed society which is required for a liberal democracy as in not succumbing to low hanging fruit propaganda and despotic leaning charasmatic individuals to take over. Again, I don't take your criticism seriously because you have no specific claims about what is wrong with our education system besides platitudes about wokeness. You also desire something: wanting to be an exporting nation that isn't service based. And don't explain how and somehow blame woke education for it. And provide no explaination of how especially how do we overcome the future inevitability of all manufacturing being automated? There are already CNC machines that are capable of constructing homes. How much human labor is minimized just by that? You want a robust manufacturing labor market for the future when the future is funding ways to minimize manufacturing labor while population size increases. How do you counter that?
You're really hung up on that wokeness stuff. Is this what triggered you? Do you really need me to give you the massive list of whats wrong with our current education system? Once again, you're being argumentative for the sake of an argument. Again, being argumentative. I did not suggest we ban all heavy machinery so we can employee poor people to be ditch diggers and harvest crops by hand or build houses when construction can be automated. I stated we need high skilled manufacturing, which includes those who can design, build and maintain the automated infrastructure. Any other random tangents you want to jump to?
What if minimum wage was at least the federal cost to house an inmate for a single year? Or to really incentivize an honest day's work, 1.5x the annual cost to house a person serving time in prison? https://thelawdictionary.org/article/what-is-the-average-cost-to-house-inmates-in-prison/ At roughly $28k to house an inmate, that'd come to roughly $42K a year for every working employee at minimum. In other words, roughly $20/hr not including benefits. At least $13.50/hr if you're matching the housing cost of an inmate.
Good point, but I can't see anyone who has no choice but to work to put food on the table and a roof over their heads getting anything less than $15 an hour. People are already forced to work more than one job. For far too many it's a struggle, and a miserable way to live. With inflation as it is now raising minimum wage to at least $15 an hour should happen ASAP. Sad part is the overwhelming majority of Republicans would vote against it. They only care about supporting businesses, not the people. Profit over people.
It amazes me that anyone could live on just 15 an hour. And as someone who has been a line cook and is now high up in sales for a software company… being a line cook may have been more difficult.
Looks like we are well on our way for $15 an hour wage for everyone. Is that really helping or is it just inflate the prices for everything?
When you give $15 for minimum wage(which is what McDonald is offering here in Indiana), you are driving up the salary of other jobs as well. This is not even minimum wage, it is just inflation, but it serve the same purpose. Are the fast food servers better off now than when they were paid $11 a few years ago?
No but ade you attributing the min wage to inflation? Are corporations not experiencing record profits regardless of whether wages increase or decrease? So blame price hikes to corporate greed than a human being paid 15 dollars for an hour of their life invested in another's profit motives. I think you would need an entire paradigm shift to see it the way I do.
No. Just showing that putting everyone at $15 might not be too helpful if all the prices just go up. We are getting defacto $15 minimum wages now, and it is not too helpful to anyone at the moment.
