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CBO: $15 minimum wage hike would cost 1.4M jobs

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Feb 9, 2021.

  1. ThatBoyNick

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    This problem already has a significant impact today, it will get worse in the next several years, and eventually will collapse our society without intervention.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    No need to be so sensitive and I don’t think being called an “exaggerator” is the same as “lazy”.

    Why are there only two sides?
     
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  3. dmoneybangbang

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    It had a significant impact before too. We can barely get momentum to bolster current entitlements and paralyzing momentum with “societal collapse” doesn’t help.
     
  4. ThatBoyNick

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    What does it matter whether you think it helps or not?

    If all the money in the world is gathered by a handful of people, society as we know it will collapse. The way the current economic system is set up - will produce a handful of winners.

    Productivity better matter when discussing income and jobs
     
  5. CCorn

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    How many people are underemployed working 2 jobs to make ends meet? This may not be a bad thing.
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    What does it matter if we keep paralyzed? That should be obvious
     
  7. ThatBoyNick

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    So we shouldn’t talk about real things because of the US has political gridlock?

    Disagree
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    No. I'm saying using hyperbole, such as "societal collapse" isn't very helpful.
     
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  9. ThatBoyNick

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    In not being hyperbolic, that’s my honest belief
     
  10. larsv8

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    No, slave wages is the correct terminology.
     
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  11. dmoneybangbang

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    I guess... if you goal is to appear like an entitled and ill informed American . Seems insulting to those at the bottom of the global supply chains making pennies on the dollar when you are talking about slave wages in the US. Or actual slaves in present day and the past.

    But I get it.... wouldn’t have the same impact without the hyperbole.
     
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  12. dmoneybangbang

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    Doesn’t make it any less so just because you think it’s the honest truth.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    It isn't a zero sum game. And there is a gradient. Also cost of living is probably more expensive in this country than the counties that have pennies an hour wages. People there aren't paying 1800 dollars a month for a mediocre apartment unit in those countries or paying 11 grand a year for healthcare.
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    So because third-world countries have slaves it's ok for the US to have them too? Great logic,
     
  15. DaDakota

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    No, - make it $15, go for it.

    Did you realize that in 1991, the minimum wage for waiters at a restaurant was $2.13 plus tips......????

    And today, the minimum wage for tip earners is still $2.13? I mean - maybe that is why people don't want to work in restaurants......


    I like Europe's way......no tips or very little and you pay a living wage.

    DD
     
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    I'm assuming there are no small family owned restaurants in Europe because I was told paying a living wage for small businesses would end them.
     
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  17. dmoneybangbang

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    Is that my logic or your attempt at one?
     
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  18. dmoneybangbang

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    Well sure. There's enough reasoning to raise minimum wage and raise the societal floor without having to resort to the hyperbole of "slave wages". Slave wages are what migrants, who pick our produce, work on our ranches/slaughterhouses, etc., make and raising the minimum wage wouldn't help them. It's a complicated issue and I just find the "hyperbole" off-putting.

    There's a reason why Progressives keep losing the narrative despite having issues that poll so well.
     
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  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You are comparing the United States' cost of living to that of a third-world country. If you need me to help you up on the balance beam of your mental gymnastics I'll be glad to.

    BTW, You do know that American citizens work for slaughterhouses and farms too right?
     
  20. larsv8

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    No, doesn't seem like you get it at all.

    Seems more like a deflection technique to avoid talking about the issue. We see this alot. If you were a conservative pundit, we might expect you to kickoff your program tomorrow with "Americans are slaves? This is what the Left believes"

    This has nothing to do with slaves of the past or present day, or some migrant worker in a third world country. This is about the poorest workers in the US, and that is it.

    There is no hyperbole here. If you are willing to work, and you do work 40 hours a week, and by doing that you cannot afford basic necessities, then you are a wage slave.
     

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