CBA offical said :"Yao will be back with China NT after the playoffs"

I think that Yao would get time off if he quietly went behind the scenes and asked for it. More probably, he would rather go back, whether we like it or not. It isn't what we want, and maybe he is divided about it. But I'm sure he's thought about it, talked with his parents and advisors, etc. Now that this official has said so publicly, it would be embarrassing for them to let him stay in Houston now, unfortunately.

By the way, on a personal note, it would be great if Korea beat China this summer. Yeah Koreans! Yeah four-guard offense!

 

I'm sorry but... when did the CBA use patriotism? In fact, you did even bother acquainting yourself with the fact that the CBA DOESN'T choose the CNT, the CNT does.

The CNT said it's disappointed in Wang's actions. THE FANS called Wang unpatriotic.

 

And what political reasons would that be?

 

First of all, foreign players do play Ping Pong in China.

Secondly, those aforementioned foreign players do go back and play in crappy little tournaments in their countries.

Finally, many foreign countries hire Chinese coaches just so they can improve their miserable little tournaments, you see it worldwide. Only you would single out the Chinese.

 

I don’t really understand why the CBA is making this issue such a big deal by announcing to the public that Yao will return to China this summer. Is an announcement really necessary? Why not just wait until the season is over and let Yao decide whether his body is up to it or not. With the CBA already going public and announcing they will ask him return this summer, they’re putting Yao in a very difficult situation. If Yao says no, he’s not going to look very good.

I don’t remember there ever being this big an issue with any other foreign player. You don’t see Germany announcing in the middle of the NBA season that Dirk will be asked to return.

 

The fact I bothered to acquanted with is that CBA, CNT or whoever pick the team, it is the same set of people making the decision.

When the offical started saying that you owe the country if you don't take certain actions prefered by them, they are in fact labeling you. At one point, one femal spokeperson used the fact that Nowitzki joined the German team, she said something like this:...EVEN Nowitzki loves his own country, Wang does not....

 

It is a preempted strike.

 

I think MFW made a good point here: let's not single out the Chinese on this. There is nothing wrong with calling your own players back to play for a nation team. There seem to be many people trying to prove that to be wrong. Me, for one, enjoyed seeing Yao to represent the China.

What IS wrong, or what is not quite right is the occassions of the call. A burnout Yao is not in anyone's interest.

 

Um no it's not. 10 years ago it would be. The CBA is a quasi-private league (in the future it will be entirelly private owned). The CNT has de facto control over the CBA because they are the largest stockholders (due to complicated economic reasons, I won't bother going into details into why it didn't wholly privatize). This is likely to change in the future when investors decide the CBA is more ripe for investment.

You may have CNT members sitting on the boad in the CBA precisely because the government is officially the largest stockholder. And you certainly can say there may be some agency problems. But that doesn't change the fact that the CNT and the CBA are independent entities, becoming more independent in the future.

One obvious difference is the goals, the purpose to exist. The CBA, being an enterprise, only needs to make money (although if pressured, they'll toe the official line). In the CNT, the cynic in me says, they also want to make money (same as every other national team), but they have their necks on the line. If the CNT performs poorly, the officials get replaced.

As for choosing the CNT, the CBA (except those that also happen to be CNT officials) has no say. For example, China's next coach (a Lithuanian I believe) will provide input. He doesn't do jack in the CBA though. A high level CBA official, unless he also happens to be a CNT official, also can do jack about picking the next CNT, although they can try to lobby their fellow board members (I don't see why they would).

In the case of Wang, had anybody actually considered that he's a special case because he also happens to be a military officer, where patriotism is an issue? Even then, they didn't say Wang is unpatriotic. The fans did.

 

Let me clarify couple of things. A certain basketball official said Yao will go back because it's stipulated in his contract. So far the CNT folks expressed no opinion. Until the CNT officially calls him and he boards a plane, it ain't happened.

I certainly am not gonna get worked up over what some anonymous official (in which unless he's the new coach, his opinion don't hold much water) allegedly said, quoted by what every internet surfer in China knows is a tabloid site.

 

I think a lot of people here is using the two terms interchangably. It is techincally may not be correct but it is happening.

 

If they called Wang UP, I think my post is quite clear on it. And here are a lot argument can be made about Wang's army membership and what he did. I don't agree with you but I don't want to go there. It is will be too much off the topic.

 

Hi, MFW, are you the spokeperson for the organization? If not, you should consider the job

 

Let me reiterate my position. I am of the opinion that Yao going back won't benefit him or the CNT. As a result, I am inclined to wish that he doesn't go back. However, all I am really doing is point out the other side of the argument, which some here seem to deny as either non-existent or absurd.

What's the ultimate goal of the CNT? I doubt it is so that Yao + corrupt officials + Les + NBA + whoever can make money. If not I'm wrong, it is for China to do well in basketball. Mind you, certain officials may be shortsighted (and certain a fraction can be corrupt), but that doesn't mean they are:

1. Corrupt OR
2. Playing political games just for the sake of playing political games OR
3. Control Yao just so they can control Yao

What would be the point in that? Now mind you, maybe they just think that Yao going back is in China's (not necessarily Yao's) best interest and the future proves them wrong. Or maybe they think that Yao going back is in China's best interest and the future proves them right (after all, only time will tell). Neither implies that they are simply playing games.

No I'm not a flag waving redbook carrying Chicom. I think the problem is that (let's just say) certain people are so ____ (fill in the blank here) that they can't see the other side of the argument, no matter now legitimate.

 

Damn communist China will never give him a summer off, that's the way it's going to be. They will work him and milk him for every drop. Who da hell cares about the national team? they got a spot locked for 2008, so why put him through that crap! Unless, he does what Wang did!

 

BTW I'm gonna say this now. If Yao cant be a ****ing man and say no, and burn himself out like that, then just dump his ass for someone who wont be a retread before he hits 30. I think Yao is a great player and all, but if he cant do what is right for his body, nevermind his career, then I'm not sure I want this guy on my team. I support him being loyal to his country and all, but if he's gonna wind up killing himself cuz of it, then he's just a ****ing idiot. Call me an ahole if you want, but I'm being selfish for the sake of my team. It isn't like Yao is jumping at the chance to go home and play for the CNT this year, he's being pressured by some bonehead morons who wanna look good. If the guy can't stand up for himself, then maybe he isn't EVER gonna be compatible with the NBA game. People complain about him not being aggressive or standing up for himself in the game. It all starts with the way he listens to some stupid bloodsucker who wants him to play in a meaningless tournament that almost everyone else agrees is completely and totally unnecessary.

Stand up for yourself, you 7'6" bag of pussiness.

 

Booo China. Or...in particular. CBA! BOOOOOOOO!

Yao needs to rest those damn trunks of his.

 

Satire is something you don't relate too, but that's ok...you have a bone to pick with me as well.

The point is that people go after prestige over duty. You don't see Tiger Woods competing against 7 handicappers in Thailand. You don't see Cuban baseball players defecting BACK to Cuba to play for the national team, you don't see Rondo playing in Brazilian bush leagues. And frankly, you don't see ping pong players getting injured - SATIRE!

 

Excellent post!

I think the Rockets should go "behind the scenes" and exhaust all avenues in order to keep Yao in the US for the summer so he can rest and work on his game. If he still goes over to the CNT, then it's time to start looking at possible trade packages to compliment T-Mac because Yao will soon be damaged goods playing in games 12/12 months each and every year.


Just image what Hakeem would've been like if he had to go back to the Nigerian NT each summer to play exhibition games with vastly inferior teammates and competition.

 

LOL.

Since when has Sina.com become such a credible source to you guys that everyone jumps on the bashing bandwagon based on an article on that website?

Imagine the whole world coming together to bash Daid Stern after the National Enquirer reports that the Commissioner is going to ban all international players so they will not be able to return to their NBA teams next season...

I don't know which is more stupid...

I am looking forwards to another 5 pages of intense debate on this latest breaking news from...Sina.com...ROFL