Great post, and my thoughts exactly Cat. I don't understand how so many undervalue what he brings to the table.
Once again posters are overvaluing players on this team. Lowry can start on certain teams. He needs play finishers around him to be effective. Thats why he played alot with brooks,chase,and landry. If he played with trevor,shane and chuck, people would think he's overpaid. Fast forward to this year when yao comes back and he's not the guy you want playing with yao. Not that I'm with building around elsie, but having lowry in there with yao is a disaster against good teams. Lowry is a good little bench player. If he was good enough to beat out brooks he would have by now. Oh, did yall see the playoffs from 2 yrs ago. Thats what I thought.
I thought he would get an offer for between 4-6 million per. I would definitely sign him. When he went down last year the team really struggled. Also by keeping him it gives us more options in regard to trades. I don't want to trade Brooks, but by having a very competent backup PG, we could at least consider a big blockbuster trade involving brooks. Also, if Lowry continues to improve, 6 million per year may look like a bargain by the time his contract is up.
Nice post Rip, pretty much nailed how I feel about the whole situation too, though I did think his offer would be closer to what Sessions got last year, but this year's market is extreme and unique, so good for him. DD
When did this turn into a Brooks vs. Lowry competition. I thought they were on the same team; and Lowry had a heck of a playoff series against the lakers especially for only being with the team 3 1/2 months. As did Aaron as you mentioned. BTW, Kyle being on the floor with Yao on the high post is great strategy due to Kyle's ability to cut backdoor and draw fouls (anybody who draws fouls is good to be on the floor with Yao). My point is: Both guards (Aaron & Kyle) bring very contrasting styles which is very important to have in a league based on match ups. For example Aaron's quickness and shooting ability is very effective against a guard like Derek Fisher who is older and can't keep up; while Kyle's toughness and attacking offense and stingy defense is essential in slowing down a guard like Daron Williams (our recent success against Utah IMO was based on Kyle's play). Just saying
I didn't realize I was insulting Lowry by calling him a "backup PG". I think he is a very valuable member of the team and would hate to lose him. I said that it would be a tough decision, I didn't say they shouldn't consider it. Personally I would hate to lose Lowry, but I don't want to overpay for him either. I am glad I am not a "top basketball mind" like Morey so I don't have to make such a difficult decison.
Since the 4th year is a team option, so the reality is that it is a three year deal for $16M-$18M. I also agree with others, Lowry was playing a backup PG last year, but he is more than a backup PG just because AB is better. I also recall that he even won the player of the game for a couple of time because he carried the team to win those games. The rockets said they will match any offers for him and Scola, if they do not do it, it would be about the money, not for winning unless they can find a better replacement, which I do not think they can.
The Cavs had to overpay cause he's a restricted FA. They weren't going to sign him to a deal they knew Houston would obviously match.
No he didn't, but thats not the issue. Its similar to when the knicks had strickland and jackson. Price and kj in cleveland. If the age difference were greater, this would be easier, but 2 guys that deserve to start who are the same age is the caveat. Brooks is the better player with or without yao in adelmans system. Lowry is more like bobby jackson when bibby was there. Lowry can start on a couple of teams, but all in all, he's a bench player on a good team.
I don't......I mean Ridnour is different but he has more experience as a starter, and is more of an offensive threat. It all depends upon what you need, both Ridnour and Lowry are borderline starters depending upon the rest of your roster. They are also both limited to certain roster types to make them effective. DD
1. I don't think other teams are going to base how they value players on reading the tea leaves. They've got plenty of hard data on how these guys perform. They won't be swayed by what they think the Rockets might think of these players. 2. If the Rockets do intend to trade Brooks (and I think it should at least be considered an option), they need to have another PG on the roster that can take on the starting PG position when Brooks is shipped out. With Lowry in the fold, he knows he can trade away Brooks without leaving a big hole.
Don't match it now. Make the Cavs suffer Take it down to the last hour. **** Dan Gilbert and **** the Cleveland Cavaliers.
If the Rockets are truly in a Win now mode, than they need to re-sign. It will be stupid to have AB suffer an injury and we are left with Temple as our Starting pg.... You might have to change your signature soon. How long before we get a REAL backup PG?!!! 6 million is a lot, but like others have suggested we can trade him.
Considering we were not able to land our target FA's, the least we can do is keep the guys we have here. Please sign Lowry.
The sign of a really good team is knowing when to refrain from overpaying a player. As much as I love the hustle and toughness of Lowry, 6 mil per is too much to ask for a backup PG. That's the kind of money we are paying starters like Battier and Ariza. So taking that into consideration Morey should wholeheartedly refuse to pay Lowry when he can easily find a trade with another team for a similar quality player at half the cost. Just do the math on this: Lowry at $6 million + Brooks who will demand around 10-12 million for his contract extension. That's 16 to 18 mil committed between 2 non-all-star PGs. Again people this is about building a great franchise which means you have to let players go from time to time if the price is not right. I have confidence Morey will find a cheaper alternative. Let's not forget, Lowry was a scrub in Memphis before Morey landed him in a trade. I bet there are dozen Lowrys out there hidden among the terrible franchises.
