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Cats - should they be let outside?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DaDakota, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. CrazyJoeDavola

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    My son was scratched by my neighbor's cat, who was hanging out on his playground. When he climbed up into it, he didn't see the cat, and the cat scratched his hand.

    Luckily my neighbor was very understanding and put up an electric fence. Haven't had a problem since.
     
  2. Surfguy

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    Maybe you can site that example to legislators when they attempt to pass legislation preventing pet cats from being let out off a leash? I don't think the paw print/poo argument is going to hold up. Unfortunately, your incident is like winning the lottery compared to when dogs attack.
     
  3. CrazyJoeDavola

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    You are being silly. However, the issue of strict liability in civil cat bite/scratch cases is pretty clear, especially if the pet owner has been warned.

    Also, leash laws aren't necessary. Electric fences work fine. Problem solved, unless cat owner's feel it is not enough to let their cats roam on their own property.
     
  4. Air Langhi

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    Did he do something to the cat? Usually they just do their own thing.
     
  5. CrazyJoeDavola

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    See my previous post. My son was climbing up into his playground. My neighbor's cat was sleeping up inside of it, when my son got to the top step, he put his hand inside to pull himself up (he didn't see the cat who was sleeping), and the cat freaked out and scratched him and then took off back to his property. I immediately went over and spoke nicely to my neighbor about it, who promptly apologized and remedied the situation by putting up an electric fence.

    Still having problems with my other neighbor who seems to think his cats have a right to hang out on my land and destroy/stink up my property.

    I may call Droxford in to help. :)
     
  6. Surfguy

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    That is unusual. An apology on the actions of the pet were good...maybe an offer to help pay for medical treatment. But, to put up the electrical fence for a freak incident. It's not like the cat ran up and attacked your kid. Your kid startled the cat from sleep...and the cat reacted. Your neighbor afraid of you or something. You must have really b_tched him out. What did you want him to do about it?
     
  7. Dave_78

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    Because if you leave your car outside and don't expect the weather, wild animals or even the neighbor's cat to possibly get it dirty or scratch it then you're an idiot.
     
  8. CrazyJoeDavola

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    My neighbor is not responsible for the weather or wild animals.

    It is not unreasonable for anyone to expect that something their neighbor owns and/or controls will not be a nuisance to them.
     
  9. CrazyJoeDavola

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    My neighbor volunteered to put up the electric fence. I did not ask him to. There were no damages, other than the cost of some neosporin and a band-aid. I did not b**** him out, I simply told him about what happened, hoping that he would make sure it didn't happen again, which he did. He is a good neighbor who didn't want his pet to be a nuisance, which it was.

    It is not my kid's fault the cat got startled. It is his playground and there is a reasonable expectation that he should be able to use it without getting hurt by someone's pet that shouldn't be there in the first place.
     
  10. Dave_78

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    I live in reality. Where do you live?
     
  11. CrazyJoeDavola

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    I live in a world where I take responsibility over things I own/control so they aren't a nuisance to those who live around me. It is a nice world to live in. Sorry you don't agree.
     
  12. Dave_78

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    I just have more important things to worry about than being a whiny neighbor.
     
  13. Al Calavicci

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    Just like the last time this was argued about, cat owners are throwing a hissy when most don't agree cats should be allowed to go where they please.

    I like cats. I own one. But if a neighbors cat keeps coming in my yard, and the owner doesn't take steps to prevent it, I'm taking the cats collar off and dropping it at an animal shelter.
     
  14. Depressio

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    Is it the act of the animal in your yard, or something it's doing that is adversely affecting your yard that would cause you to complain about it?

    If the cat's just in your yard, being harmless, and you still complain about it... WTF is wrong with you, exactly?
     
  15. sammy

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    And I could say that I have more important things to worry about than getting my car waxed & buffed.

    The incident I described happened was when I first bought my car. How foolish am I to care about my possessions ? Granted, it wouldn't be such a big deal now since I've had my car for a few years now.

    Garage is usually full so your solution doesn't work. Btw, I didn't complain so I wasn't "whiny". It would have been a bigger headache to find out who owned the cat, etc.
     
  16. CrazyJoeDavola

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    Well, I have more important things to worry about, like protecting my child and being able to enjoy my backyard without it smelling like a litter box or having a $900 crapped on because a neighbor's cat was hiding in my garage and got trapped for 2 days.
     
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    Pretty soon there is going to be Cats Anonymous. Cats getting together confessing things in treatment like:

    "I can't get out of the house."
    "This isnt a regular collar. Watch. ZZZzzzZZZzz!!!!!"
    "I keep having to walk on the same car over and over cause I can't find my pawprints when I know I was there earlier and, before that, in mud."
    "I did a dookie in the rose garden and I was apprehended by secret service agents. I was waterboarded. Meow."
    "I liked my neighbor's lawn more than I liked my own...so I was there to stay."


    WE MUST NOT LET CATS EVOLVE!!!! WE MUST STOP THEM!!!

    Sorry! lol
     
  18. Jugdish

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    Since Trader_Jorge hasn't been around in a while, allow me to observe: what a bunch of titty babies. You'd think there were Great Danes wandering the block, leaving 10-pound turds in people's mailboxes.

    Again, cats chilling on your porch...BFD.

    And to you spiteful dicks capturing cats, the owner doesn't necessarily consider his cat "property". It's a loved one. Show the basic human decency you claim to expect from your neighbors.
     
  19. Fatty FatBastard

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    I've got a question: Why do apartment owners let their cats roam around? As I stated earlier, every freaking morning at my old place there were cats sleeping on my car. I never did anything about it, but why the hell even own a cat if it sleeps in a parking garage? And there were typically 3-4 around that garage every day.
     
  20. ArtV

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    I do put it in the garage but I feel like batman putting it in the batcave and shutting the door immediately after putting it in because I've had track marks as fast as 20 minutes after washing. Why should I have to arrange my behavior on my property because of your cat? And you don't see any problem with that whatsoever? Minor yes, but I don't get that any more than I don't get the constant barking dog. I just don't.

    Even if I felt safe letting my dogs roam, I wouldn't not only because of the annoyance they may cause to some, but because there are plenty of dangers that I can't teach them. I can't teach them not to drink the antifreeze that has leaked or overflowed from the neighbor's car. I can't teach them not eat the rat poison bars covered in peanut butter that the neighbor put out because they are having a rodent problem and since they don't have pets or kids they aren't thinking about a residual kill. I can't teach them to not chase something across a street when a car is coming. I just don't get how you can think this is responsible.
     
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