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Cats - should they be let outside?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DaDakota, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. fmp087

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    You feel differently about cats, some people can't stand them and don't want them roaming around their neighborhoods especially on their own property. If your cat/s can't stay confined to your own property they should be impounded plain and simple.
     
  2. fmp087

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    Ignorance is bliss.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Wow 13 pages and a lot of poo being flung including cheap shots about weight and threatening to shoot people! Who would think Cats would be such a controversial topic.

    Perhaps cat discussions should all be moved to the D & D.
     
  4. the11mingdynasty

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    Damn cats, i hate them. Roam around all night causing neighborhood dogs to go crazy, climbing on cars, peein on my plants and killin them. Pooin in my brushes, f***in stinks everytime i walk to my front door step. What can i do? gotta resort to settin mouse traps or what
     
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  5. Batman Jones

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    Ditto.

    Way, way uncool, droxford. I'm seriously surprised and disappointed in you.
     
  6. DallasThomas

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    I'm amazed you read that whole post, so I won't get mad at you for calling me out (even though I used a Merriam-Webster accepted spelling ;))



    Anyway, it was supposed to read "...sick [sic]..."

    Oop - gotta go. There's a cat in my backyard.
     
  7. Tom Bombadillo

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    I think there are a lot of people that have more to worry about than cats coming in their backyard. It truly amazes me that this actually disturbs and even pisses people off. I have a feeling that it is mostly OLD people that get off on these kind of goofy, minor annoyances. Just deal with it Grandpa...

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  8. Surfguy

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    Funniest thing happened this morning. I never, ever see cats on my property. This morning I'm pulling out and this cat parked his rear right on my front lawn...like the cat owned the yard. This cat didn't move...even as I was pulling out. Why is this cat protesting this thread on my front lawn? I was for outdoor cats! :D
     
  9. ArtV

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    It's not about dog and cat owners. It's about irresponsible pet owners. The problem is that irresponsible pet owners don't see themselves as irresponsible pet owners because the are only thinking about fluffy or spot.

    Barking dogs are annoying. And I don't understand how owners can let that go on. I just don't understand it at all.

    Cats roaming is also annoying. Owners may not notice the annoying parts because little fluffy comes home waggin the tail and giving the owner a big 'hey' when it comes home. What they don't see is that the neighbor just spent 2 hours cleaning the car and even though they moved it in the garage when they were done, some critter left their little paw prints all over their hard work. Do you realize that I have to get a ladder out to wipe little fluffies prints off the windshield so I won't see that every time I take it for a spin? Do you care? Probably not and that is why you are an irresponsible pet owner in denial. Just like the barking dog owner ignoring his responsiblities. You 2 have more in common than you think.

    Oh - And I own 2 dogs in case you think this was written by some anti-pet owner.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Exactly.

    DD
     
  11. MoBalls

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    This morning I found a cat pooping in my flower bed. I threw water at it and it screamed and ran away. I thought about this thread. :mad:
     
  12. juicystream

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    You might want to spend $5-$10 and take it to a car wash if it takes 2 hours, and you should go ahead and refill your windshield washer fluid if you are so concerned about your windshield having prints on it.

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  13. Nero

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    Ok, some people are clearly not smoking enough happy-weed the last 24 hours.

    Back up a sec.

    Some people hate cats. That's just a fact. And some people like cats. Some people are indifferent. Some people LOVE cats way too much.


    Now just randomly toss this thread out here all innocent-like, (started by someone who clearly does NOT like cats, btw), and all hell breaks loose. Because this thread really isn't about 'Should your cats be let ouside or not?' It's a not-so-cleverly-disguised 'Do you hate cats, or love them?' thread. And when you are talking about things people either love or hate, you hav the recipe for a polarizing, antagonistic thread.

    However, to deal, once again, with the actual alleged intent of the original question: non-neutered or non-spayed cats are a nuisance. This is a fact. They do what is in their natures to do, which is spray, make screaming kitty love right under your window at 3AM, make little kitties, and kill little critters. That is what those animals DO.

    If you are a cat owner, and you have not spayed or neutered your cat, then you must *either* 1) Never let them out of your house unsupervised, or 2) take them and get them spayed or neutered NOW. Otherwise, you are an irresponsible cat owner, and are contributing to and feeding into the very things the people who hate cats are complaining about. Because YOU are allowing the cat to do what nature designed it to do, and YOU are the nuisance.

    On the other side of that coin though. Spayed and neutered cats are completely different animals. Neutered male cats (especially as they get older) are primarily lazy sleeping machines. They typically don't fight, they typically don't spray, they just like to find a nice spot to sleep, eat their food, drink a little water, and sleep some more. And then come around for some pats on the head when someone comes along who they think might pet them. Same with spayed females. Their primary nuisance doesn't exist any more, they don't attract loose males, they don't make little kitties, and they mainly just want to show affection to their humans. Horrible, right?

    Now I am talking about domesticated pets here, even if they live outside.

    And I am talking about the suburbs, not living in an urban concrete jungle.

    I suspect that most of the cat behavior that the complainers are talking about is coming from wild cats. Feral cats ARE a nuisance, and should be trapped. It is much more human to trap and do away with feral cats than allow them to roam and cause trouble and breed, which only exacerbates the problem.

    My question is, for all of you indignant people out there who are up in arms about 'irresponsible cat owners' letting their cats come and do grievous harm to your property and generally besmirch your way of life- how exactly do you know that these are 'pet' cats in the first place, and not wild cats? Are they wearing collars? Are they cats you *know* to be the pets of one of your neighbors? If so, then fine, if the cat is causing a nuisance, have the decency to talk to them about it, let them know. No one should have to put up with a nuisance.

    But have some decency yourselves. Because it's clear some of you people fall into the category of 'cat haters', and it is definitely coloring your thoughts on this matter. If you are so fed up with the horrible cat menace that you would actually trap one (and don't get me wrong, if it is a wild cat, it is definitely a nuisance), then if you *know* it is someone's pet, then you damn well better tell them that their cat is not at the pound, because if you don't then that makes YOU a pos. And you know it.

    And you cat people? (fyi I fall into the 'mostly indifferent' category) If you think you are somehow 'cruel' to have your cats declawed or fixed, get over it. These are little predatory carnivores, and they do what they do, which is bug the crap out of people if they are not controlled. You are doing nobody a favor by not fixing them.

    So, in conclusion, this thread is not really about cats, it is about nuisances. If you allow your cat to be a nuisance, then you are a bad cat owner. But this does not mean that every outdoor cat is a nuisance. And it is clear that cat haters probably disagree with this.

    Bottom line, if you own a cat, get the dang thing fixed. And haters, get rid of the wild cats if you must, but don't lump every cat you see in as 'other peoples' pets', because they probably are not.
     
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  14. ima_drummer2k

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    That's not funny, juicystream. Cats walking on cars is SERIOUS SERIOUS business. It happened to a friend of mine and he has never been the same since. He's pretty much SCARRED FOR LIFE.

    I have reported your post.
     
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  15. juicystream

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    Actually it is. Stuff happens, including from stray cats. What if the cat is an inside cat that escaped the house? It happens.

    I just want to be allowed to stop the true nuisance.

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    Stupid property destroyers who have the intelligence to know better. :mad:
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    Good post Nero and I agree. I noted earlier in the thread that what T-Man was describing sounds more like a feral or semi-feral cat colony living in his neighborhood. I have an indoor cat that I never let out but there are a few cats living in my neighborhood that are allowed outside. As far as I can tell all these cats have owners and are fixed. I rarely have any of the problems that are described here.

    If you have a neighbor that is feeding feral cats you might want to talk to your neighbors about the problems the cats are causing and / or call the humane society to come and trap and neuter them. There are plenty of trap, neuter and release programs for feral cats that are meant to reduce the problem behavior and number of feral cats without killing them.
     
  17. Dave_78

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    This is what I was thinking.

    To the original poster, look on either side of your steering wheel and you will find a lever that has a button or switch on the end. Push it and magical "windshield cleaners" will start moving back and forth on your car's windshield. Along with the enchanted fluid the shoots up from the bottom of the windshield this will clean the windshield off and make you smile.

    These magic window cleaners also come in handy when water comes out of the sky from what I can only imagine is god spilling his ozarka bottled water.
     
  18. Fatty FatBastard

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    Lol. I'm absolutely shocked that cat owners would get so annoyed and irritated about this.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    I do not hate cats, if someone has a cat as a pet, great.

    I just hate cats crapping in my yard, spraying my outdoor furniture, and getting cat hair and dander everywhere.

    I don't trap them, nor harm them......as I am respectful of my neighbors, even if they are not returning the favor by allowing their cats to become nuisances.

    Just keep your cats to yourself, and realize not everyone likes your pet, especially if it is not controlled by you.

    (Edit) upon reflection, I don't hate them, but I don't like them either.

    DD
     
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  20. droxford

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    I've talked about being a considerate neighbor, and that door swings both ways. If you were my neighbor, and I knew for a fact that your cat was spraying on my grill, catcalling at night, etc. I would, as a considerate neighbor, approach you and say, in a cool way, "Hey Jason, I know you're not gonna want hear this, but your cat has been spraying on my grill. Could you please not let your cat out?" I'd do this because you're a cool guy and I want to be a considerate neighbor to you.

    But if, after a few times of talking to you, you continue to let the cat out, that indicates that you're being directly inconsiderate and belligerent with me, even after I've been cool to you. Then, I'm gonna set the trap.

    That said...

    I know the neighbors behind me and on both sides of me, and none of them own cats.

    I don't care if the cats in my yard are feral or pets. I leave that up to the SPCA to handle. The cat shouldn't be on my yard and I will take action to prevent that.
     
     

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