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Cato time!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Valio!, Feb 11, 2001.

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  1. Arnel

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    I hope you're right sane, I hope you're right..

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  2. RocksMillenium

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    Well enjoy Dream now because he is likely gone after this season. Then where will we be? Cato better comeback and make an impact because we need it BADLY, not just for now, but for the future as well.

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  3. Live

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    This is one of the problems with the NBA: "what other option do we have", or "we have to forsake other talented players with legitimate skills for a big stiff because you can't teach size".

    Fact is, Cato hasn't been on the floor all year, and the Rockets are doing just fine without him. If the Rockets have a chance to move him, then I say AU REVOIR!! GET HIS CONTRACT OFF THE BOOKS!! There are no less than 3 "Catos" available in every draft in case your worried about next year. I'd rather have Pig Miller on the team, at least he can catch a pass.

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  4. Valio!

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    What ever happened to pig? Did he ever play? I never saw him?

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  5. HOOP-T

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    Irrelevance.....Cato himself hasn't been an option this season.

    Our options are Olajuwon and Collier, or going back to making Maurice Taylor play center. Cato isn't an option due to his constant injuries. So maybe we need to look into other options.



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  6. heypartner

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    That's true, which means he does have a place in our offense, especially when he came off the bench with Cat. But does he do it any better than Rogers. Haven's scouting report is spot on, too. It all leads you back to Live's assessment that HOOP-T distilled down quite well: "Cato is not an option."

    Examining all these critical quotes, it is safe to say that Clutch pulled a sunshine ass quote by Sane out of this thread for the "BSS Hot Topic". That's heypocrasy, I say. [​IMG]
     
  7. OT

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    I think Haven nailed it. Cato has not been an option and probably will never be able to be counted on. I think Los rebounds as well, moves without the ball better and does a decent job blocking shots and out hustles Cato. I would rather try to bring Collier along, than waste time on Cato. At least he can shoot away from the basket.

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  8. Sane

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    Hey hey hey, don't go bashing my quote!!

    lol...


    The thing is, Cato has shown flashes, and flashes are enough hope for some people.

    About his style, doesn't Ratliff fit in perfectly with the sixers? How much range does HE have? how much does IVERSON slash? There's always place for him....He was signed cause he fit in to the offense...


    You're right, I have nothing to back my statements up. Even I don't consider that ONE pre-season game a glimpse of hope. No, I'm basing it on sudden flashes, which will turn into consistency once he's outta this phase.


    Check this out:

    NBA: Centers


    A

    Amaechi, John, Orlando Magic
    Austin, Isaac, Vancouver Grizzlies

    B

    Bagaric, Dalibor, Chicago Bulls
    Battie, Tony, Boston Celtics
    Blount, Mark, Boston Celtics
    Booth, Calvin, Washington Wizards
    Bradley, Shawn, Dallas Mavericks

    C

    Camby, Marcus, New York Knicks
    Campbell, Elden, Charlotte Hornets
    Cato, Kelvin, Houston Rockets
    Causwell, Duane, Miami Heat
    Clark, Keon, Toronto Raptors
    Coleman, Derrick, Charlotte Hornets
    Collier, Jason, Houston Rockets

    D

    Dampier, Erick, Golden State Warriors
    Davis, Antonio, Toronto Raptors
    Davis, Terry, Denver Nuggets
    DeClercq, Andrew, Orlando Magic
    Divac, Vlade, Sacramento Kings
    Doleac, Michael, Orlando Magic
    Dudley, Chris, Phoenix Suns
    Duncan, Tim, San Antonio Spurs

    E

    Eschmeyer, Evan, New Jersey Nets
    Ewing, Patrick, Seattle SuperSonics

    F

    Feick, Jamie, New Jersey Nets
    Fortson, Danny, Golden State Warriors
    Foster, Greg, Los Angeles Lakers
    Foster, Jeff, Indiana Pacers
    Foyle, Adonal, Golden State Warriors
    Fuller, Todd, Miami Heat

    G

    Garrett, Dean, Minnesota Timberwolves
    Gatling, Chris, Cleveland Cavaliers
    Geiger, Matt, Philadelphia 76ers

    H

    Harvey, Antonio, Portland Trail Blazers

    I

    Ilgauskas, Zydrunas, Cleveland Cavaliers

    J

    Jackson, Marc, Golden State Warriors
    Johnson, Ervin, Milwaukee Bucks

    K

    Knight, Travis, New York Knicks

    L

    LaFrentz, Raef, Denver Nuggets
    Longley, Luc, New York Knicks

    M

    MacCulloch, Todd, Philadelphia 76ers
    Magloire, Jamaal, Charlotte Hornets
    Manning, Danny, Utah Jazz
    Massenburg, Tony, Vancouver Grizzlies
    McCoy, Jelani, Seattle SuperSonics
    McIlvaine, Jim, New Jersey Nets
    Mihm, Chris, Cleveland Cavaliers
    Miller, Brad, Chicago Bulls
    Mohammed, Nazr, Philadelphia 76ers
    Montross, Eric, Detroit Pistons
    Moore, Mikki, Detroit Pistons
    Mourning, Alonzo, Miami Heat
    Mutombo, Dikembe, Atlanta Hawks

    N

    N'diaye, Mamadou, Toronto Raptors
    Nesterovic, Radoslav, Minnesota Timberwolves

    O

    O'Neal, Jermaine, Indiana Pacers
    O'Neal, Shaquille, Los Angeles Lakers
    Olajuwon, Hakeem, Houston Rockets
    Olowokandi, Michael, Los Angeles Clippers
    Ostertag, Greg, Utah Jazz
    Outlaw, Bo, Orlando Magic

    P

    Parks, Cherokee, Los Angeles Clippers
    Perdue, Will, Portland Trail Blazers
    Perkins, Sam, Indiana Pacers
    Pollard, Scot, Sacramento Kings
    Polynice, Olden, Utah Jazz
    Potapenko, Vitaly, Boston Celtics
    Przybilla, Joel, Milwaukee Bucks

    R

    Radojevic, Aleksandar, Denver Nuggets
    Ratliff, Theo, Philadelphia 76ers
    Reeves, Bryant, Vancouver Grizzlies
    Robinson, David, San Antonio Spurs
    Rogers, Carlos, Houston Rockets
    Rooks, Sean, Los Angeles Clippers

    S

    Sabonis, Arvydas, Portland Trail Blazers
    Samake, Soumaila, New Jersey Nets
    Santiago, Dan, Phoenix Suns
    Scott, Shawnelle, San Antonio Spurs
    Spencer, Felton, New York Knicks
    Stepania, Vladimir, New Jersey Nets
    Stewart, Michael, Toronto Raptors
    Sundov, Bruno, Indiana Pacers

    T

    Tabak, Zan, Indiana Pacers
    Thorpe, Otis, Charlotte Hornets
    Traylor, Robert, Cleveland Cavaliers
    Tsakalidis, Iakovos, Phoenix Suns

    V

    Voskuhl, Jake, Chicago Bulls

    W

    Wallace, Ben, Detroit Pistons
    Wallace, Rasheed, Portland Trail Blazers
    White, Jahidi, Washington Wizards
    Williams, Aaron, New Jersey Nets
    Williams, Scott, Milwaukee Bucks
    Willis, Kevin, Denver Nuggets
    Wright, Lorenzen, Atlanta Hawks

    Those are 92 players.

    24 of which aren't true centers, but actually Power Forwards.

    That brings the number down to 68.


    Out of 68 Centers, i rate Cato better than 50 of them. That's AT THE MOMENT, AFTER NOT SEEING HIM PLAY FOR AGES. I'm sure he's better than that, and he's easily one of the top 20 Cs in the league. One of the top 8 shotblocking Cs. One of the top 6 fastest Cs.


    There's still hope. But you're right, he's left a lot to be desred, but u can't give hope up, not yet..

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    Great post, Sane. I'm not giving up hope yet.
     
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    Wow Sane... u went all out on that 1.

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  11. haven

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    Sane: How about a center that suits our style offense? Like, presumably one who can actually shoot jumpers? Cato is a LANE CLOGGER.

    Of course, he hasn't had much of a CHANCE to clog the lane htis year...

    More than anything else, my problem with what you're saying is that you have NOTHING to back your assertions up. Cato has NEVER been a good player... he couldn't GET playing time in Portland, and didn't even excel in COLLEGE. I mean, he wasn't even a great player at Iowa State. Reliance on Rockets's management is nice, but it's not like they're infallible. See: Matt Malone, Turkcan, Tabak, etc. They do good things, but they also goof from time to time. Cato was a BIG GOOF.

    Cato's DEMONSTRATED positive attributes: heighth, athleticism

    DEMONSTRATED negative attributes: injury plagued, no shot, propensity to foul, poor team defense, mediocre rebounding for size, bad hands, no footwork

    Given that scouting report, what makes you want Cato? Of course, feel free to disagree, just show me where I'm wrong, Sane.

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  12. Hydra

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    Cuttino seemed to play well with Cato when he was in, I remember several occasions where Cat would drive and dish to Cato for a dunk.

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    Brendan Haywood wood fit well. Oops!!!

    I seriously wrote that. oh well.

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  14. clutchdream

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    I say play Cato big time, there is hope that he dominates the next couple of games and then...............trade his A$$ off.

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  15. Arnel

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    LOL.. you just made me remember playoffs 1996 I think it was, when we played the sonics in second round (when he had horry, and cassel and elie).. 4th game, (we're down 0-3) we're loosing bad in the last quarter, but some little kid on the sideline was standing with the mascot and holding a big sign "I STILL BELIEVE".. damn, I had goosebumps all over and especially when they came back to force overtime.. unfortunatelly, we went on to loose in the OT, but that specific moment I don't think I'll ever forget, I still believe baby..

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  16. ROCKETBOOSTER

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    First off Cato is anything but a lane-clogger. Second, he is not paid or asked to shoot jumpers. Cato is paid to Rebound and block shots, and most of all, more than anything, he is asked to make his prescence felt on defense(Which I thought he did a decent job of doing last year) Now, that has nothing to do with regestiring block shots on stat-sheets, but has more to do with not allowing an opposing team a free-lane to the basket, or forcing an opposing player to settle for outside and middle distance shots when normally inclined to drive. Now, if anybody here watched the Rockets last year, you can not honestly tell me that Cato did not change the complexion of the game defensively the way I just stated above.


    Oh yeah, and what in the hell is the deal with this Cato is injury-proned garbage? What? The kid sprains his upper ankle - which I hear is a persistent b**** - and he all of sudden is proclaimed to be injury-proned/plagued for the rest of his career. Cato is injury proned is not a correct statement, so end that myth now, before you injure your pinky by typing such repetitive nonsense.

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    Pig Miller was signed by the Houston Rockets earlier this year. He was expected to grab rebounds and help this team with his hustle, but when Kenny Thomas and Maurice Taylor got over the flu there was no more room for Pig. Pig was cut from the Houston Rockets roster.



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    I love cato, but he is injury-prone

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    He is, however, in town. At least he was until a few days ago. When the rockets had an 'optional practice' after some holiday or sumsuch, he was there, playing one-on-one with Cato. This was according to someone on Star610. I don't remember exact date/time but it was roughly 1-2 weeks ago and stuck with me 'cause I thought it was somewhat odd.


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