Francis and Mobley need to shut-up and play ball. They haven't won anything to be talking all this smack! It's almost like they beat the Lakers, and get delusions of grander! Getting a big head are we? Tisk, tisk... I bet Francis and Mobley think their poo-poo doesn't stink. They need shut the hell-up and prove it on the court.
YOU-ARE-AN-IDIOT!!! I can tolerate people dissing on Mobley and Francis and Rudy when/if they play/coach badly, and people have some anxious fingers just begging to be pointed at somebody cuz they're asses like that. I can tolerate people saying that Ming is god and it's everybody's fault but his that he's performing badly or the team is losing on any given night.. Basically, I can tolerate "fans" not supporting their players because of poor play, but not because of crap like this. I can NOT tolerate undescribable bullsh!t like that quote right there... ANYBODY and ANYBODY that gets on Mobley's ass - especially to that extent - for the stuff he said, or any Rockets for talking smack, unless it's really unfounded and cold-hearted should NOT BE HERE. They're not Rockets fans as far as I'm concerned. You're a bunch of freakin p*****s. Who is he hurting by saying stuff like that? I really doubt Rigadeu or whatever cares or is going to do anything about it, and I don't think he fired up any teammates or anything to step up, and I don't think he was outperformed by this guy to make him seem even stupider or something. I'm not saying to support him, but stop making it sound like he's some sort of uncivilized hoodlem who needs to go to boot camp to get his attitude straight. The NBA is never going to become a collection of modest, righteous... ballin' priests? People will ALWAYS trash talk, and usually it's a relatively harmless way for them to express their emotion and competitiveness before or after a win or loss. This is just part of the game as far as I or any of you should be concerned. It's ok for fans to call players trash when they are but not players? Players whose peers are also players? What sense does that make? They need to "back it up with their game"? Well in any case, I think Mobley has. Rigadeu's team isn't exactly winning because of him... Mobley does not deserve ANY KIND OF HEAT for these quotes... oh... and Francis was NOT trash-talking about the Dallas deal, but that's another topic - just kinda fit in with this one a little... Please be REAL fans and get pissed when another team's player calls one of ours trash. Unless it's Glen Rice, then smile and nod.
WIGMAN, No, if you read that last paragraph of my last post, you'd see that if Mobley wanted to just discredit the hype, he could have said something to that effect without having to pull the European-American stuff. I'm not defending Rigaudeau or the hype. 5'7" players do not dominate Euro league. "Garbage, can't dribble" players are not called stars in Euro league. Maybe Rigaudeau shouldn't be called a star. Maybe he's an over-the-hill star (like our Glen Rice). If Mobley thought that's the case, he should have said it straight. BTW, I've never said Mobley was xenophobic (read my posts). I think his comment sounds like he is needlessly defensive about the whole European vs. American thing, and that bothers me in light of him having two foreign players on his own team. Anyways, I agree that there can be other interpretations of Mobley's comment. But my interpretation is not a stretch.
Also, someone has already mentioned int he Detroit game thread. But I think it is something that is in line with the topic here. After the Detroit game, Mobley is quoted: "They play boring," Mobley said of the Pistons. "And we fell into it. I told coach that tonight at halftime. He was like, `We've got to get into it.' It was hard. They got us out of the way we wanted to play." THEY PLAY BORING. What a great insight into why the Rockets lost: the other team played boring! As if a boring win didn't count. As if it's the Pistons' fault that the Rockets didn't play exciting basketball. As if Mobley had forgotten that they were also whipped by a run and gun team. (What did he have to say after beaten by the Mavs, again? Something about a garbage first day rookie.) Mobley should have looked into the mirror and point his finger at that face. He should have been doing some deep soul searching after his team being outscored by 43 points in two games, after he shot 9 for 27 (33%), after he missed all 4 3-pointers, after he had 4 assists with 6 turnovers. Instead, he blamed the other team of playing boring. I have never bashed Mobley before. I had high hope for him before the season. I saw flashes of transformation in his game. But his attitude after these two games is just killing me.
Easy, you are absolutely right. It's like a pattern. The losses were bad, but these statements just reveal a boneheaded and stubborn, stupid attitude that is NOT good.
Rockets will keep losing until they figure out how to pass the ball to the open guy and make jumpshots! One question.........what offense do the rockets run anyway?....besides the francis-yao pick n roll and iso plays..... Is it me or do the rockets have no go to plays?
How is calling a team boring trash talk? He didn't say they were bad, that's just their style of play, and many of us were even talking about that well before the game started in the game thread, but the second he says it, it's a massive no no? I'm especially wondering how it's smack when he even admitted that their play was what destroyed the Rockets that night?
Can you see a pattern? We lose to the Spurs (still, an OK game): - Francis and Mobley: 33 shots (8 made) - Yao Ming: 11 shots (4 made) We lose to the Mavs (in an embarrassing way): - Francis: They cannot beat us one on one. - Mobley: That Rigaudeau dude is garbage. - Francis and Mobley: 27 shots (12 made) - Yao Ming: 6 shots (2 made) We lose to the Pistons: - Mobley: They play boring. I told coach that tonight at halftime. - Francis and Mobley: 31 shots (10 made) - Yao Ming: 4 shots (1 made) We lose to the Bulls: - Francis and Mobley: 37 shots (15 made) - Yao Ming: 9 shots (6 made) That's 45-128 shots from our two guards in the last 4 games and 13-30 from our 7'5 center. These two missed almost THREE TIMES AS MANY SHOTS (83) in the last 4 games as Yao Ming has even taken. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? We lost 4 games in a row and these two morons talk bad about the OPPOSING TEAMS instead of looking at THEMSELVES. I don't buy all this talk about how they love Yao and how Yao is the "Dynasty" etc. if they don't pass him the DAMN BALL. And what the hell is going on with Rudy? Why does he leave Yao Ming on the bench in the final minutes of a close game, after Yao Ming just brought the Rockets back and even the opposing announcers say he is unstoppable. WAY TO BUILD YOUR ROOKIE'S CONFIDENCE AND TO SHOW HOW MUCH YOU TRUST HIM, RUDY T! And what the hell is Mobley talking about? "I told coach at halftime that the other team plays boring"??????? WTF? You better LISTEN to the coach and focus on your own game and on getting your 7'5 center involved!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not saying that Yao needs to take all the shots. I am also not a Yao-only fan. But what pisses me off is the stubbornness that you see when these guys are not changing one bit and instead of looking in the mirror, they talk bad about the teams that just destroyed them. What's next? Will they say "Chicago is a crappy team, they were lucky, blablabla"?
Alright, why am I not surprised? "That last play was just a fluke," Francis said. "Give (Fizer) credit, as he was able to get it out of there and up. I had my hand on the ball, too. It just goes to show that you can play the right way for 48 minutes and still lose on a fluke.
It's unbelievable that he thought the team played the right way for 48 minutes. He truely does not "get it".
Good post. Yes, they already said that, "It was a fluke" said Francis. You know, we're 27th out of 29th in league team assists. Oh, and Francis leads the league in turnovers. A few over Kobe. But, Kobe is a SG, and Francis is a PG (or is he?).
*Whoa*. First off, I'm amazed that anyone needs a quote about some European to acknowledge/recognize that Cuttino Mobley is an idiot (here all week folks). Secondly... *sigh*, our team... is... so... goddamamnanann.. stupid. How do you guys like the history of quotes by Francis that revolve around the theme "when I jumped up in the middle of two guys, I knew that somebody somewhere else was open". LOL. Burn it down. Cuttino... stupid. Francis... stupid. Mo Taylor... stupid. You know what though? Something can be made of those guys. They just have to be led. They're not inherently evil people; their coach just sucks.
Easy, You said that because the guy is considered (by the media) a Euro Star, putting him down means putting down Euro basketball. But, if Cuttino didn't think of the guy as a star then was it really his intention to put down European basketball? I was using a short player in a (fictional) Lilliputian basketball league to illustrate that different leagues have different standards (different levels of competition, different officiating, different styles, different rules, different emphasis on certain skills) .... which means that just because you're a star in one league doesn't necessarily translate into being a star in another league. A guy can be a star in college, but he can end up like garbage in the NBA. A star in Europe can also end up looking like garbage in the NBA. I know you never called Mobley xenophobic, but my original posts (which, by the way, were not directed to you in particular) were in response to the xenophobia accusations in general. You happened to respond so, naturally, I thought you wanted to debate the issue. Since you're not calling Mobley's comments xenophobic, then I guess you're not stretching your interpretation too far. You see, it was the xenophobia label that I had a problem with (accusing someone of being a bigot is a serious matter ... we should not be throwing these types of labels around willy-nilly based on a few comments that can be interpreted many different ways).
I think all those comments from our players against other teams are not call for. If a team beat you then your team must not perform as well as the other team. Instead of putting down anyone else you should focus on what you did wrong that lead to the loss. This team is young and it certainly show their immaturity both off and on the court. And you don't call a guy garbage after his first game in the NBA either. Just imagine if the Indiana's player call Yao a big garbage after his first game in the NBA. How can you assess a player after his first game. Overall, they should focus on their weaknesses rather than thinking that they are better than anybody else. If you are bettter and lose then don't you think that there is something wrong with the way you play? Very simple and I guess they didn't get it at this time of their career.
yet another example that there is always something to enjoy at a bball game if you just look for it. Did anyone else see the two *AIR BALL* layups by Rigaudeau. Layups!!! Now that is the definition of garbage. How about when Nachbar blocked that 31 yr old whose "career is probably coming to an end." Go ahead, one of you people kicking the Rockets while they are down paint those layups with rose-colored glasses. NBA Action: FANTASTIC!!!
I think you missed the point. The point wasn't whether Rigaudeau was "garbage" or not. The point was that Cuttino should just keep his mouth shut and play basketball.
no Bookit, you missed the point. The point is that there is something to cheer in every game...and the Rigaudeau subplot is one fine ass little sideshow last night. garbage air ball layups...and blocked by Boki...Hollywood couldn't script it any better. sorry that you do not know how to enjoy yourself even in a loss.
Yeah, I'm with you 'dagimp. You know how to enjoy subplots with your "my name be da dis" self. btw: Do you think rigaudeaudagimp is registered yet. I think it would be cool to eternally rag on him via my moniker. What do you think...that would be a fun dissing subplot, don't ya think?
