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Casinos in TX might become a reality soon.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocket3forlife2, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost Member
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    Red flags go up in my mind as to the validity of an argument when I hear the "families" card being played.

    Casinos... gay marriage... etc don't destroy families... crappy parents destroy families

    btw you fail

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  2. JuanValdez

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    I'm against.
     
  3. leroy

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    DAMNIT!
     
  4. FLAGRANT1

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    I think the biggest contributing factor to weak family units is having children out of wedlock and teenage sexual apathy. Everyone has their vices and one could argue the amount of strip clubs in Houston is of far greater concern than a casino moving down I-10.
     
  5. stanleykurtz

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    Please argue honestly.

    I said "weaken" families, not "destroy", and gambling does exactly that.

    I want a society where we help each other be better. If you place temptation within easy reach, you are helping to create "crappy" parents. Crappy parents produce crappy children, and we all pay a price going forward.

    Our society has prohibition on many vices for good reason. You may excellent self control, but you should step back and consider the costs we all will bear if we allow local casinos to fleece the weakest willed people among in the name of increased tax revenue.
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    Dude, if you're going to play the "but I didn't say *exactly* that" game then you're going to be in for a long, hard time in the D&D... as if weakening doesn't imply that?

    You are kidding yourself if you don't think crappy parents aren't already finding ways to be crappy, and to destroy their own family units... still waiting to see some evidence of "weakened" families... and not only that.. still waiting to see some evidence that "weakened" families cause this societal breakdown...

    Big fan of prohibition? Well, if you treat people like children... well, you know the rest.
     
  7. rocket3forlife2

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    To a Crack head, does it really matter if you put a crack house on the next street or if you put it 5 blocks down? I don't think it would matter.
     
  8. stanleykurtz

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    I haven't had a hard time with anybody who argues honestly.

    "Weaken" and "destroy" are completely different concepts. "Weaken" does not imply "destroy".

    Words matter.

    I realize that bad parenting is a major problem in our society. I am arguing that we are in the same boat, and we should be helping each other be better people and better parents.

    Ask yourself- do other vices weaken families? Does society have ANY role in prohibiting vices?
     
  9. stanleykurtz

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    Put that crack house in Louisiana, and I think the crackhead would notice.
     
  10. leroy

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    So, you'd be ok with reinstating the 18th amendment? Prohibition worked out so well...
     
  11. br0ken_shad0w

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    More slot machines in gas stations and conveniant stores? No thanks.

    Casinos being built on Galveston island and other areas? Yes please. It would suck for Lake Charles, but Texas first.
     
  12. stanleykurtz

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    That has nothing to do with this discussion. I could come back to you and say "so you want to legalize crack cocaine too?", but I would be making the same flawed slippery slope argument.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    Actually you made it relevant when you started going off on the tangent about other vices and the destruction of the family unit... and what role our government should play in prohibiting them.

    If you ban one vice on shady grounds, others will follow...
     
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    Not if he has a vehicle and there are no other places close..He might not buy as often, but it would happen.I'm telling you from experience, I have an Uncle that's addicted to the drug.
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    The crackhead would probably notice how much fun he was having in Louisiana getting his crack, and how much time he was spending there--away from his family... and how much money he was spending in another state's economy!
     
  16. surrender

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    If this passes, I hope we end up with a nice, large casino in downtown a la Harrah's in NOLA, instead of the shady strip-mall "casinos" that dot I-10 in Louisiana
     
  17. Bandwagoner

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    Tons of our cash is being diverted to LA. Keep it in Texas.

    I don't gamble but I am pro building them here. Help out Galveston and let LA fund itself.
     
  18. stanleykurtz

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    Donny, I asked YOU if society has a role in prohibiting vices, and you didn't answer.

    However, if you want to introduce alcohol into the discussion, let's go.

    Like gambling, I don't think alcohol should be completely illegal. I just think there should be limitations. I like that our bars close, instead of being open all night. I like that people can't roam the streets with open containers. I like that bars can't open near schools.

    Is society wrong to place these limitations on alcohol consumption?
     
  19. stanleykurtz

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    Yes, but then the Houston neighborhood would not have the violence and other crimes associated with crack houses.

    Casinos are similar. Where ever casinos open, crime follows.
     
  20. DonnyMost

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    LMAO. So you asked me, and only me, and no one else is allowed to participate?

    Ok, I see you're just going to play symantics and nitpick things to death instead of going into subtance and reason.

    So peace out, nice talking to you.

    P.S. I answered your question, "crappy parents make crappy families". Pretty much sums up how I feel about the role of vices in the breakdown of the family unit.
     

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