I agree with all your points here totally. Just want to add that we are a winning team when Yao plays as a Rocket.
What? What? What? You are 6 pages too late, someone already posted this, but you seem never reading what others have to say. Even if we limit the topic to the Rockets franchise, you don't hold that 6th place as evidence of "overrated". what was the value of Rockets is before there was Yao Ming? Since you are often fun of player comparisons, let's do some here. D Wade, a superstar, as big or bigger star in NBA than Yao Ming, where's Heats? #12. D Howard, the best center in NBA, has his club at #17. Can D Wade and D Howard, being as big stars as they are, single handedly bring ads deals, endorsement deals, naming rights, etc to their franchise, ALL by themselves? They can't. Yao MIng can. Yao MIng also brings you shoe deals just being his teammates. Since you think Yao Ming and Gasol are about the same in basketball values, can Gasol bring anything close to what Yao brings? Only Lebron has the similar level of impact. Now, there's something you left out that maybe can give you more perspective: I'd love to hear what your definition of "overrated" is.
Isn't this list actually PROOF of Yao's effect? Or have you forgotten how SI didn't even come up with a commemorative issue for our first championship because they don't even care about our market. Is there any reason why a team that hasn't been past the 1st round for ages should be 6th in revenue, when Houston is hardly a big media market? I mean, just look at the teams above us. 1. NY - No contest in terms of market size and history 2. LA - Same as above 3. Bulls - Bigger city. Had MJ. Had tons of championships 4. Pistons - Big basketball town 5. Cavs - A team with Lebron and a finals appearance only made 8 mil more than us. If Yao has no effect, then Lebron probably doesn't either.
Yes, he could have invest in China without Yao. But Les would have to waste 10 years just to make a name for himself in China. He went straight to the front of the line with Yao in his pocket. You need connections to do big business in China. I think Toyota put their name with the Rockets because of Yao and all their marketing in China.
Donno why people are doubting Yao's audience attracting ability. The first NBA game I went was Rockets @ Knicks 2 years ago before Yao injured. Yao and the Rockets were the reasons I went. There were tons of asian just in my section went to the game to watch Yao. Normally Asian/Chinese here do not go to NBA games much. Yao gave them a reason to.
I thought i posted this article last week, but maybe i forgot to hit submit. The shoe deals are cool if you like wearing those ant's vs league mandated reebox. Also, when did the toyota center open? The summit didn't have nearly as many lux boxes as the toyota center also being downtown vs out on 59 is beneficiary. I never said he didn't help, all i'm saying is those teams above the rockets don't have a cash cow, yet generate more revenue. Detroit is the the only big city to go backwards in terms of population. Dallas is right behind them, who is there cash cow? Yao helps, but i guess shoe deals and other stuff is more important than a ring. Hakeem wore Etonics before he dropped those 29.99 specials. Shaq has had the number 1 selling shoe for about 5 years and you can buy them at academy and wal mart, yet he won rings. Its all about the rings. If La thought someone was better than Kobe, they wouldn't care how many kobe shoes or jersey's were being sold. Thats probably why they have 15 to our 2. Thats probably why they went from a 7 and 8 th seed to playing in the finals and maybe on their way again. They traded the most charismatic, dominating big of our era a year early, rebuilt and got it going again. In business, its allways better to be a yr early than a yr late. Business 101 my friend.
^^^ So Yao brings the money but it's all about winning basketball game. If you guys have already made up your mind that Yao is tradable why invite us dummies to the talk.
yes, I was already aware of the revenue sharing amongst NBA teams that directly negates those who think that jersey sales or tv contracts DIRECTLY go to the Rockets. I actually would never have started this thread if the question wasn't asked by a rookie who can not start threads.....I knew that he wasnt the only one wondering, so I started this for him. I assumed that was evident from the beginning. and yes, giving substantive evidence to backup your points is not a matter of opinion....substantive facts are easy to tell....they do not have the phrase "you will just have to trust us" in them
the board is getting dumber and dumber by questioning such questions as trading Yao, trading AB, Battier, Scola etc.... and now doubt whether Yao is Cash cow more stupid questions are coming in this off-season even RIGHT AFTER we got the most successful season in 12 years
This might be related to the fact that Yao's success in NBA has greatly promoted the overall influence of NBA in China which provides vast opportunities for each single NBA teams. In this respect, Yao's value is intangible.
Also what the blind dont understand is the only money thats not shared among the 32 teams are parking,concessions,luxury boxes, local tv,cable and radio. even the regular gate receipts are shared between all 32 teams. When owner b**** and moan about stadiums, its not the regular season tickets guys, its the psl and suites. The bulls ahve been one of the biggest profit teams in the nba even when they were sorry because they had 400 suites at 250k per that jerry didn't have to share with anyone. Spike lee said last week for his courtside its about 1800 per game. Those suites at msg go for abou 600k per.
The extra revenues Yao brings is not the argument. Nobody is arguing those revenues are so influential that Les will hold onto Yao forever.
uuummm...that is EXACTLY what some around here say. If that wasnt a fact, I would have never wasted my time posting this thread or any followup replies.
I know about the revenues but has anyone discussed the overall value of the franchise because of Yao being on it? I am certain that Les has access to a lot more cash because the value of the Franchise has doubled since Yao joined. Yao is a Rocket and will be as long as Yao wants to be. DD
You seem to start your own thread within others' thread. This thread was specifically asking whether Yao is a cash cow for Rockets and Les. Not asking whether Yao should be re-signed because of the money he brings. You jumped into the discussion, and went on totally different direction on your own, talking about business 101 and then later called others blinds? Posters listed where Yao helped Rockets team, teammates, and Les in money, do NOT ask for a max deal for Yao. Don't be so worried. Les will make the decision with his own money. You think Yao should be traded, that's absolutely fine. But so far, a month or two later, you haven't come up with a name. That's ok. That's what discussion is about - laying out own opinions. However, to call others blinds by totally missing the topic and driving the discussion towards 20 other same threads, is just not necessary.
les could sell this franchise for a lot more compared to if he didn't have yao on the team. is this at least an established fact in this thread?
