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Case to Draft Reed Sheppard at #3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Medicine N Music, May 20, 2024.

  1. J.R.

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    6’4 Holiday
    6’4 White
    6’6 Brown
    6’8 Tatum
    7’2 Porzingis

    6’1 Pritchard
    6’7 Hauser
    6’9 Horford

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    FVV was a vital piece and starter for the championship Raptors a few years back
     
  3. hlmbasketball

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    White is 6'6 - 6'7
    Tatum is 6'10

    However, let me ask you this, if the Rockets were playing the Celtics in this series, who would Reed Sheppard guard?
     
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    Lowery was the starter and luckily they played the Warriors, which was a small ball team. I think EVERYBODY can see the NBA is changing.
     
  5. J.R.

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    LOL No…

    White is 6’4 (check any of the websites)
    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2017-18
    Without shoes 6' 3.25''
    With shoes 6' 4.5''

    Brown
    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2016-17
    Without shoes 6' 5.25''
    With shoes 6' 6.75''

    Tatum is not 6’10 :D
    6’8, maaayybe 6’9

    Who would Sheppard guard? His counterpart off the bench - Payton Pritchard :)
    (Or Derrick White)

    Who would Donovan Clingan guard?

    Should we go get our White? (Sheppard)
    Should we go get our Jrue? (Castle)
    Should we go get our Hauser? (Knecht)
    Forward? (Buzelis?/Salaun?/Holland?)
    Trade up for Sarr?
     
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  6. hlmbasketball

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    Those were when they were drafted. They have grown since then.....similar to Giannis. When he first came into the league he was 6'8, he's now 6'10 - 6'11
     
  7. hlmbasketball

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    White who is one of the best shot blocking guards in the NBA who probably shut Reed down.

    Clingan would match up with Porzingas, if he played.

    I think the best fit for the Rockets are Sarr or Risacher
     
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    I'm sure those dudes grew 2 inches this morning. Must be the hotel they stay in Dallas. :D
     
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    Porzingis in Game 3.
     
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    Basically a white Aaron holiday without on ball defense.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Or a Stephan Curry with his shot making ability.

    No one knows what he will be.

    DD
     
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    You’re 2-3 inches off on White’s height and 2 inches off on Tatum’s. What are you looking at bro? Lol
     
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    Lol @ tatum being 6'10"
     
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    Jayson Christopher Tatum is an American professional basketball player for the Boston Celtics of the National Basketball Association. He was a McDonald's All-American in high school in Missouri and played college basketball for the Duke Blue Devils. Wikipedia
    Born: March 3, 1998 (age 26 years), St. Louis, MO
    Children: Jayson Christopher Tatum Jr.
    Current teams: Boston Celtics (#0 / Power forward, Small forward), United States
    Height: 6′ 8″
    Parents: Justin Tatum, Brandy Cole
    Siblings: Jaycob Tatum

    Jayson Tatum
    Jayson Christopher Tatum Twitter: jaytatum0 ▪ Instagram: jaytatum0

    (J, Taco Jay)

    Position: Small Forward and Power Forward ▪ Shoots: Right

    6-8, 210lb (203cm, 95kg)

    Team: Boston Celtics

    Born: March 3, 1998 (Age: 26-101d) in St. Louis, Missouri us

    College: Duke

    High School: Chaminade College Prep in St. Louis, Missouri

    Recruiting Rank: 2016 (3)

    Draft: Boston Celtics, 1st round (3rd pick, 3rd overall), 2017 NBA Draft

    NBA Debut: October 17, 2017

    Experience: 6 years

     
  15. maj21

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    Starting guards that are similar height or shorter than Reed Sheppard..
    Steph
    Maxey
    Fox
    Kyrie
    Scoot
    FVV
    Trae
    Brunson
    Conley
    Murray
    Dame
    Mitchell
    Garland
    JA
    I’m sure I’m missing some, but wtf are really talking about here?
     
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    So I guess Luka is at least 6’9” now lol
     
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    Reed Shepherd, Dribble, Pass and Shoot guy in the draft!

    DD
     
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    So basically guarding him in the rehabilitation chamber.

     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5557593/2024/06/13/rockets-nba-draft-reed-sheppard/

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    Last season, Kentucky allowed .900 points per possession with Sheppard on the floor, compared to .998 with him off, according to Synergy tracking data. Synergy’s Player Impact, an adjustable metric for teammates and opponents designed to illustrate impact during a player’s minutes on the floor, grades Sheppard as a plus-2.7. In simple terms, Sheppard’s teammates would be 2.7 points better defensively with him on the floor than with a college-level replacement.



    As it pertains to one-on-one defense at the NBA level, however, more nuance is required.

    I watched every isolation defensive possession Sheppard was involved in last season to get a better sense of who he is. In recent years, I’ve become more aligned with reading stats, using the eye test as a means to formulate an idea, then going back to the numbers to see if there’s any validity to conclusions drawn. Defending isn’t an exact science, and one-on-one situations can be even murkier, with other determining factors — teammates on the floor, shot clock, score — all potentially playing a part in not only the type of shot taken, but the defense played as well.

    Sheppard’s isolation defense is broken down into two main categories, whether he stayed attached to his man or was blown by. In situations where he was initially blown by, either he recovered or didn’t. In instances where he stayed attached, three things occurred; either Sheppard forced a good shot contest, had a poor one or forced a stop (active hands). Here’s the official breakdown:

    Total Isolation Defensive Possessions: 30
    Stayed Attached

    • Good contest (includes foul called): 12
    • Poor contest: 10
    • Forced stop (active hands): 1

    Blown By
    • Recovered: 1
    • Did Not Recover: 5
    • Fouled: 1



    So, what does that portend for a future in Houston? Rockets head coach Ime Udoka has made it clear that for his young players to get playing time, they have to not only defend but also show effort and stay solid within the scheme. Under Udoka, smaller guards like VanVleet were excellent isolation defenders despite being undersized, because of their physicality, attention to detail and mechanics. This is in addition to the high-level floor spacing (like Sheppard) they bring offensively. There’s potentially a Holiday-sized hole to fill this offseason, and Sheppard could theoretically slot in, but making him a stronger, smarter defender will require a thorough development plan.

    Sheppard is a fantastic shooter and smart, unselfish offensive player who understands half-court basketball and has connectivity to his game. Defensively, he’s also shown capabilities of generating timely stops, but for him to fully achieve his potential at that end of the floor, he’ll need to be more disciplined at the NBA level.
     
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