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Carville: 'Ted Cruz Is the Most Talented, Fearless Republican Politician I’ve Seen in 30 Years'

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  1. glynch

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    Specifically when you volunteered somewhere or perhaps know people with life threatening or very painful medical problems and they have no health insurance how did you feel and what did you tell them? "Good luck"? " Sorry that is beyond my volunteer duties?" I guess you hope medical personnel and hospitals will volunteer?

    Perhaps you can't understand why most folks don't think that is good enough when people are in desperate straight or in intense pain and suffering. Many market fundamentalists feel that way.
     
  2. trueroxfan

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    I helped them in any way I could. I didn't demand everyone give me a dollar out of their pocket because others were in hard times. Every family goes through hard times, it doesn't take government handouts to get through them. It takes community involvement and good neighbors, not a good big brother. My family came here with nothing, they fled a war torn country and established themselves in Texas. Within 2 generations they had a successful business and had moved well out of poverty.

    The American dream isn't easy, but it's possible. And so I help those get through their tough times with charitable assistance. If you have such a big heart, devote more of YOUR money to the cause, don't require everyone else to pitch in, some of us are already on a bare bone budget and have future plans that we need every penny for.

    Comets, I want to live in a modern FREE society. Small government doesn't mean no government. Essential, modern services don't come from the federal government. If you want to live in a communist or socialist country that gives you everything you need, by all means go right ahead, but that isn't this country.
     
  3. CometsWin

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    The last I checked there are any number of "modern services" provided by the federal government every damn day all over the country. You countered my post claiming you relied on slogans to solve problems with more slogans and nonsense. Great.
     
  4. glynch

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    Come on... are people still pulling out "The Red Scare" to freak people out?

    "Essential, modern services don't come from the federal government."

    Of course not. We don't need an interstate highway system, national defense, or regulations to prevent companies from poisoning people because they make higher profits if they don't care. All essential modern services. Seriously, do you get out much?

    As for your feel good story about your family pulling itself up by its bootstraps, well join the crowd. I could bore you with a story about what my own family has gone through, stuff like coming to Texas in time to fight at the Battle of San Jacinto (my father's mother's side of the family), coming to Texas in the late 1800's and walking away from a wealthy plantation owning family in North Carolina, for reasons we still haven't been able to discover (my grandmother on my mother's side of the family got a visit from one of the wealthy folks in North Carolina, who are still have enormous land holdings there. this fellow was writing a book about the family, and tracked down my grandmother, paying to have her visit the relatives there for a couple of weeks), members of both sides of my family going through the depths of the Great Depression, including my grandparents and parents. Dad was farmed off on a relative for a stretch, and then stayed at the house of his best friend for a year, because Grandpa couldn't afford to keep him. My grandmother on Mom's side of the family took in relatives that had nowhere to stay. You know, stuff like that. I don't want to bore you and everyone else, though.

    I suggest you get out more. Free your mind!
     
  6. Commodore

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    Cruz on The Mark Levin show yesterday

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  7. bmd

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    James Carville is a democrat who was the political strategist for the Clinton campaign. Politics is what he does.

    So if he's saying that a Republican is a talented politician, then there is probably something to it.
     
  8. bmd

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    I think government help is necessary... but it is being abused by many people.

    Just one example...

    I live in North Houston, but my older brother lives in Pasadena in South East Houston. He never graduated high school and moved in with a friend in Pasadena. Anyway, he got a girl pregnant.

    This girl is 27 years old and has 5 kids and works as a waitress at a pool hall 3 days a week. She gets all kinds of government help.

    And guess what? She wants to have another baby. She just recently got pregnant again but had a miscarriage.

    And it's not just her. Many of her friends are the same way. On Facebook, when she ponders having another baby, do the comments tell her not to because that would be incredibly stupid? Nope. They are all encouraging. It's ridiculous.

    People work their ass off and pay taxes to support irresponsible people like her. It's infuriating.
     
  9. Dubious

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    A talented politician does what it takes to get elected i.e. lies, grovels for money, agrees to quid pro quo deals, sublimates his true ideals, calculates public relations effects, lives by polls, gerrymanders voting districts to insure his party over representation... it's not a compliment necessarily.


    A talented statesman does what is best to advance civilization.



    And it's your brother and the other dads that should be supporting her since they chose to impregnate her.
     
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    Except Carville was talking about none of those things. He was talking about things that can be seen by the public. Speeches, debates, not toeing party lines, etc.

    And as far as my brother, he probably should be paying child support. But how is he going to do that? He doesn't have any money. Secondly, she lied and said she was on birth control purposely so she could get pregnant. So he didn't choose to impregnate her. She chose to impregnate herself.

    All of these women in this particular area have a whole bunch of kids and nobody has any money. They can't afford to take care of all of those kids themselves.
     
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    Don't put it in if you can't handle what comes out.
     
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  13. bmd

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    I agree. That's what I have been saying. People have all these kids they can't afford, and hard working people have to pay for them.
     
  14. Dubious

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    You are wrong, he is putting forth an electable persona (given his electorate), that is exactly what Carville is praising, because he is a politician too.
     
  15. glynch

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    Hopefully you can get just as infuriated about billionaires scamming on their taxes or buying our politicians so they can get more tax breaks, bust unions, ship jobs overseas, depress wages, increase college tuition, make your healthcare more expensive so folks can makes tens of millions off it etc.

    This actually causes your need to bust your ass more than your brothers's gf's personal problems and irresponsibility.
     
  16. bmd

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    Of course I hate when the rich game the system, too.

    But some of what you said isn't the rich doing anything wrong. Companies ship jobs overseas because it makes the most financial sense. The question you have to ask is WHY does it makes the most financial sense? Because the government makes it worth the trouble.

    Increases in college tuition have to do with simple supply and demand. The government backs student loans. The more loans the government gives, the higher tuition prices go.

    It's similar with healthcare. There is an over-utilization of insurance in healthcare that causes healthcare prices to sky-rocket.
     
  17. glynch

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    Hey keep your main focus on the brother's gf, or maybe your neighbor who stayed on unemployment insurance overly long. The one percent like it that way. It hasn't happened in 35 year, but keep hoping we will finally get some trickle down if we keep redistributing money upward.
     
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    What are you even talking about? Redistributing money upward? How so?
     
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    The proportion of the economic pie controlled by the one percent and especially the .1 percent has grown a lot since Reagan and 1980's anti-tax, anti-government conservatism movement.

    In case you are actually unaware here is a link to help you start.

    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...rd-high-income-inequality-threatens-us-growth
     
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