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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tigermission1, Feb 1, 2006.

  1. mleahy999

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    There is nothing to appologize. This is the type of lowlife scumbags they're dealing with.

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    A local Palestinian leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and the Al-Awda Brigades, both militias with links to the Fatah movement, speaks to media members threatening to abduct foreigners, in the West Bank city of Nablus, Thursday Feb. 2, 2006. Palestinian gunmen in Nablus said Thursday they are searching apartments for foreigners from several European countries to try to kidnap them, in a protest against drawings of the Prophet Muhammad appearing in Western newspapers. (AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    I am agreement with you on this. I didn't believe it was one whole society vs. another whole society.
     
  3. tigermission1

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    There is some serious overreaction on the part of the Muslim countries, but I can understand that reaction since there is simply a lot of hostility against the West at this point of time...tensions are very high, I think people are looking for a reason to unleash their anger and frustrations.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Who was apologizing? I am not sure who your post was directed since everyone in this thread was against the type of action mentioned here.
     
  5. mleahy999

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    The Danish paper appologized. It was a general post not directed toward anyone in particular. This was an example of the turds who want to reply with violence.
     
  6. tigermission1

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    Here's the issue I have with your post...

    Do you really believe that those "rich Arabs" have no choice whatsoever outside of German cars or other European consumer products? Do you mean to tell me that those "rich Arabs" and Muslims in general could not take their money elsewhere where at LEAST they're not mocked and belittled by arrogant societies, say, Japan or China or other Asian powers?

    Remember that whole "Christmas controversy" that O'Reilly trumped up over the holidays because companies would say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas"? Remember how he urged Christians to "use your dollars" elsewhere if their traditions and beliefs are not respected or even accomodated? Do you believe Muslims don't have the same right to use their economic weight around the world to reward those who respect them and punish those who don't? I do.

    I have already said that there is massive overreaction on the part of Muslim societies, but you better believe that I will use my dollars and give my business to people who respect me and treat me well before I give it to a bunch of arrogant idiots who mock my faith at every turn...THAT'S my right, much like it's those countries' rights. That much you can't deny me or Christians or anyone else.

    IMO, those Muslim states should simply say to the Danish, "Thank you for your business, but we're taking it elsewhere for good" and look East. I am sure the friendlier and more respectful Asians would be more than happy to provide them with similar luxuries and products that the Euros could. Judging from recent headlines, I think the Muslim world has already begun the transition to "look east".
     
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    LOL! That's funny :D
     
  9. AMS

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    ah, yes forgive my error.

    I meant danish products, for some reason the word dutch is stuck in my mind... ive used it when talking to "real" people about this too.
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    Because Japanese and Chinese people are so tolerant of other cultures....

    (see Manchukuo and Tibet)
     
  11. Ubiquitin

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    The best course of action is to develop economies that can sustain without the west. Muslims should never depend on Christians, for anything.
     
  12. AMS

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    are you generalizing the muslim population?
    or are you stereotyping that anyone offended by these cartoons wears a mask and has a gun in his hand?

    I was offended by some of those cartoons, does that make me a lowlife scumbag?
     
  13. AMS

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    the cartoons you listed do not go after a religion, they are geared towards the conflict between two cultures/nations of israel and palestine.

    In the first picture the typical israeli is depicted as an orthodox Jew, and the cartoon is basically as yuo stated portraying the israelis as nazi's...

    and the second one, is basically again the portrayal of an Israeli leader as a nazi leader. Nothing to do with religion.

    Now if those arab cartoons had Moses (pbuh) running gas chambers full of arabs with the words mein kamph tatooed on his arm, that would be very offensive to the religion.
     
  14. AMS

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    It was inappropriate for people to speak out against the Nazi's in Germany. Now if they were in other countries, then it was legit. No one was offended if an American called Hitler a sadistical b*stard or portrayed him as one in a cartoon. Even German natives living outside of germany, I am sure, didnt uphold Hitler/Nazi's as high as Muslims do of their Prophet.

    It wouldnt be ok to ban MLK from speaking in the south, but it would be ok to stop him from insulting any person or people in genera, in his speeches.

    You have to take it case by case I guess. IMO, not all rules can be applied to all cases. And something like this cartoon thing, should be upheld to different rules. Why you ask, simply because we dont offend a few million people just to allow a few peolpe to print offensive cartoons.
     
  15. mleahy999

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    Are you looking for Eruo whities to kidnap to protest the cartoons? If yes, then you are a lowlife scumbag.
     
  16. tigermission1

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    True, but in this globalized world economy, no one can do without the other. Economic interdependence is a reality of the world we live in.
     
  17. bigtexxx

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    So let me get this straight. Some newspaper in Denmark prints cartoons that offend Muslims. Muslims are outraged and hooded (cowards...at least show your face) militants surround EU offices in the Middle East and threaten to kidnap foreigners??? Meanwhile there are mass boycotts of all things Danish in the ME, and people are ordering the governments of France and Denmark to apologize for something that one single newspaper did?

    These people are truly hundreds of years behind the rest of the world. Just a bunch of fools.
     
  18. Ottomaton

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    I think you are a rational clear-headed person, but this attitude actually scares me a little bit. I would kill people and die to prevent this from being the standard. It's called the tyranny of the majority and it is just as evil as any other sort of tyranny. I don't like tyranny.

    Was it inappropriate for MLK to speak about equal rights in the south?
     
  19. halfbreed

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    OK...either my sarcasm meter is way off or you're saying that governments should censor political cartoons because they might offend someone.

    Aren't 99% of political cartoons offensive to somebody?

    Oh yeah I remember..."Freedom of Speech for me but not for thee."
     
  20. tinman

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    here's my thing. if you criticize Christ, than you dont have the millions of Christians running down the street asking for their death of the critic.
    why is that?
     

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