Threatening or inciting violence confirms what the satire is trying to address. Wailing out for Al Qaeda to attack Denmark or some similar act of violence is what the Mafia does to silence its critics.
i think the real issue is europe's intolerance with minorities. i think europe loves to trash the US on how the US delt with minorities but recently the facade has been effaced. muslims should demand that they be protected under the anti-hate laws that primarily only protect jews. and it makes perfect sense to protect jews against anti-semitism. but it can and should be broadened to include muslims. that being said muslims should worry about bigger issues that concern them. if only they cared about freedom of the press as much as danish might...they could direct their anger against their own leaders as much as they direct it towards israel/US/europe. start fixing the world by cleaning up your home.
this is true. all the muslims outside the US hate the US, but muslims in the US dont hate living in America. France has lots of poor muslims who are angry that they are victims of segregation. the US can do tons of things to stop the muslim extremists but the muslims have to clean their own house. Just like when Pat Robertson talks crap, Benny Hinn needs to slap him.
I thought, by you muslims you meant all muslims... anyways Personal insults to me dont bother me too much. But when you insult my family, it just bothers me, alot. Thats my nature, are you going to ask me why my nature is like that? Why does it bother you when the rockets lose? It doesnt bother too many people in Dallas?
In Baghdad's Sunni Arab stronghold of Azamiyah, about 600 protesters outside a mosque burned a Danish flag and boxes of Danish cheese. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/03/cartoon.wrap.friday.ap/index.html Sorry I find this funny. I understand burning flags, but Danish cheese!!!!!??? LOL 1. i cant believe some poor Iraqi's shelled out money to buy Danish Cheese just to burn it. 2. Where can you buy Danish cheese in Baghdad?? what if it was Jamaica? would they burn the weed?
this is what i find sad. People are starving in this world and some idiots find that they have to waste food to make a point. Pathetic. they shoulda stuck to boycotting. And I doubt they bought any cheese, its all the stuff that wont sell and is prolly bein thrown out.
Sorry I wasn't saying that you don't have a problem but saying that many of that many of the posters from Clutchfans were criticizing the Chinese in the same way as they are Muslims for overreacting some quotes: That's just a small sampling from one thread. I apologize in advance for generalizing but it often seems that Clutchfans share the same narrow view that afflicts many Americans that they when large groups of people in another culture get extremely passionate about something they seem to put on blinders in regard to why that issue is such a sensitive issue. Many posters seem to take the attitude of mocking those people and deride them as being hypocritical, uneducated or immature rather than consider why this issue means so much. As I said in my early posts I value freedom of the press and can't condone violent protest, even if it is for a cause that I support, but at the same time its important to understand why Muslims are so offended by this as much as why Chinese and Koreans are so offended when the Japanese primeminister visits the Yakasuni shrine.
but burning cheese??? that's must have been some foul smelling protest. the hilarious thing is the french fries are an american invention. and the freaking potatoes are from idaho. actually they did hurt the french wine industry with that boycott. which also scrwed the US distrubtors. you know there are still jews who wont buy german cars. the people making cars arent trying to revive the holocost. all of this crap is stupid, people need to just chill. protesting products just screws up the economy for everyone. is there a market for this? maybe i should make Bush dolls and American flags and send them to the mid east so they can burn them. take that money and buy me some Tmac gear.
The threats of violence against the Danish and others is beyond stupid and silly, I saw on Al-Jazeera that a few Imams from the Muslim world have been preaching 'forgiveness' and criticizing the militants and the hardliners for contributing to the bad image many Westerners have of Islam (Al-Sistani, the highest Shi'ite cleric, spoke very eloquently on this, a few Sunni scholars and interfaith leaders have spoken against the threats of violence by some groups). I am glad there were some sane voices in all this to calm the people down. WHAT WOULD MUHAMMAD DO? By Ibrahim Hooper [Ibrahim Hooper is National Communications Director for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation's largest Muslim civil liberties group. He may be contacted at: ihooper@cair-net.org ] "You do not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you deal with them with forgiveness and kindness." (Sahih Al-Bukhari) That description of Islam's Prophet Muhammad is a summary of how he reacted to personal attacks and abuse. Islamic traditions include a number of instances of the prophet having the opportunity to strike back at those who attacked him, but refraining from doing so. These traditions are particularly important as we witness outrage in the Islamic world over cartoons, initially published in a Danish newspaper, that were viewed as intentional attacks on the prophet. Peaceful and not-so-peaceful protests have occurred from Gaza to Indonesia. Boycotts have targeted companies based in Denmark and in other nations that reprinted the offensive caricatures. We all, Muslims and people of other faiths, seem to be locked into a downward spiral of mutual mistrust and hostility based on self-perpetuating stereotypes. As Muslims, we need to take a step back and ask ourselves, "What would the Prophet Muhammad do?" Muslims are taught the tradition of the woman who would regularly throw trash on the prophet as he walked down a particular path. The prophet never responded in kind to the woman's abuse. Instead, when she one day failed to attack him, he went to her home to inquire about her condition. In another tradition, the prophet was offered the opportunity to have God punish the people of a town near Mecca who refused the message of Islam and attacked him with stones. Again, the prophet did not choose to respond in kind to the abuse. A companion of the prophet noted his forgiving disposition. He said: "I served the prophet for ten years, and he never said 'uf' (a word indicating impatience) to me and never blamed me by saying, 'Why did you do so or why didn't you do so?'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari) Even when the prophet was in a position of power, he chose the path of kindness and reconciliation. When he returned to Mecca after years of exile and personal attacks, he did not take revenge on the people of the city, but instead offered a general amnesty. In the Quran, Islam's revealed text, God states: "When (the righteous) hear vain talk, they withdraw from it saying: 'Our deeds are for us and yours for you; peace be on to you. We do not desire the way of the ignorant'. . .O Prophet (Muhammad), you cannot give guidance to whom you wish, it is God Who gives guidance to whom He pleases, and He is quite aware of those who are guided." (28:55-56) The Quran also says: "Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching, and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knows best who have strayed from His Path and who receive guidance." (16:125) Another verse tells the prophet to "show forgiveness, speak for justice and avoid the ignorant." (7:199) These are the examples that Muslims should follow as they express justifiable concern at the publication of the cartoons. This unfortunate episode can be used as a learning opportunity for people of all faiths who sincerely wish to know more about Islam and Muslims. It can also be viewed as a "teaching moment" for Muslims who want to exemplify the prophet's teachings through the example of their good character and dignified behavior in the face of provocation and abuse. As the Quran states: "It may well be that God will bring about love (and friendship) between you and those with whom you are now at odds." (60:7)
But you're forgetting the positive side of this, flag makers are making TONS of money out of this...my own little conspiracy theory is that flag makers convened together and decided to spark this controversy to profit from it. I mean, how else do you explain all those Denmark flags popping up from nowhere so protesters could burn them? I don't know about you, but no Arab walks around with a Denmark flag in his backpocket...Israeli flags are standard procedure, but Denmark? Something smells, and it ain't the cheese...
i have a jew friend who sold all these phones to iran and syria, he thinks maybe some of them are being used for their parts to make bombs, he doesnt know. he says if they ever showed the bomb parts and they had his logo on it, it will really suck. he says that the iranians are cool people to do business with. haha
sadly, the danes probably donated it. although i didn't notice a reference to it earlier in the thread, i think state's announcement earlier today condemning the cartoons is just appeasements, and is a horrible mistake.
French fries were not an American invention. The Dutch invented them, and still sell them all over the place. They are delicious! Keep D&D Civil.
