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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tigermission1, Feb 1, 2006.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

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    OK, the "low reading comprehension" comment was inappropriate, and for that I appologize. :)
     
  2. halfbreed

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    Have all of you actually seen the pictures? Most of them seem rather tame to me, anyway.

    I know it's not exactly the point here but it's not anything out of the ordinary for editorial cartoons.
     
  3. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    apology accepted, and no hard feelings. This is obviously a sensitive topic.
     
  4. tigermission1

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    Really? Portraying the messenger of God Muhammed as a terrorist is not "something out of the ordinary"? Was suggesting that the prophet of Muslims is a terrorist -- therefore directly insinuating that all Muslims, who're his followers, are terrorists -- a light-hearted joke that I didn't get somehow?

    You're right, nothing "out of the ordinary"...looking forward to the "Moses the terrorist" cartoon in the near future...
     
  5. hotballa

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    Would you settle for a portrait of Christ in elephant poo?
     
  6. halfbreed

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    This is your problem and the problem with everyone who defends these idiots.

    I agree that if I were Muslim I'd be offended. Offended. However, you're taking it personally. Nobody is insinuating that ALL Muslims are terrorists. They're using the leader of the religion as a symbol of the religion. Have you seen ALL of the cartoons or are you basing your wildly inaccurate claim on one of them?

    How in the WORLD does an offensive cartoon give anyone the right to do what's being done? Go ahead, make your "Moses the terrorist" cartoon. It's not going to bother anyone to the point of calling for heads to roll. Why? It's JUST A CARTOON. I'm secure in my beliefs and they won't be threatened by a cartoon. What you're defending is the pushing of Islamic belief on the whole world. You can't do that. It's wrong when Christians do it and it's wrong when Muslims do it.

    People make fun of Christianity all the time. Do people get upset? Sometimes. Do people call for heads to roll and the bombings of countries that do it? No.

    Why is that?
     
  7. tigermission1

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    Of course not, just in case you aren't aware, Moses and Jesus are revered prophets of God in Islam, and portraying them in a negative light is as blasphemous as portraying Muhammed in a negative light.

    I was merely making a sarcastic comment that you would never see a major newspaper printing anything that offensive about Moses or Jesus, but Muslims are always the exception in the West...if you hear half the things being said about Islam and Muslims on radios across America, you would be shocked. If the same thing was said about Jews and Judaism, there would be a public outcry.

    The standard is different, that's my point.
     
  8. hotballa

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    That's what I meant by pointing it out. That elephant dung painting of Christ was displayed in a major art gallery (I forget which museum) and its image was broadcast on TV and showed up in newspapers. I believe there was also an urine painting which got some attention a few years ago.
     
  9. halfbreed

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    Then why haven't Muslims threatened similar actions in the past when there have been examples of the same types of actions with Jesus as the subject?

    People talk bad about Jews all the time. Have you seen an episode of South Park? Nobody gets as out of control as these people have. Yet, you defend them. I still don't understand.
     
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    The problem with these protesters is that they are so prone to mob violence and willing to take it up a notch. I hear the excuse that they're the extremist, but there seems to be an inordinate number of extremist. These extremist have become the face of islam and the image to the rest of the world.

    When other countries protest, I don't get that uneasy feeling that I get from the ME. Chinese protest Japan's history books. Marches, rock throwing, boycott, etc. Fine. Cindy Shaheen and friends camp out by the ranch. No problem. If these protest happened in the ME, I wouldn't be surprised if Japanese were rounded up and beheaded. Or Bush stabbed to death by Shaheen as an honor killing. (And yes I do generalize)

    Insane man's pic is scary b/c it is so true:
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  12. mleahy999

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    Nice parents raising up another terrorist coward.

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    Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh holds a child during a rally protesting against the publication of cartoons in European newspapers depicting the Prophet Muhammad, in front of the Palestinian parliament in Beit Lahiya in northen Gaza, Friday, Feb, 3, 2006. (AP Photo / Hatem Moussa)
     
  13. MadMax

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    it's situations like this that support the theological notion of total depravity. i can't find a "good guy" anywhere in this.

    in what ways do we encourage violence among children in our own community/nation?

    in what ways do we encourage hatred of people who think differently from us? or people who look differently from us?

    none of us are innocent. we're truly broken.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    ACtually it looks like he is doing a good job of parenting to me. He is protesting with his son. That is the appropriate action to take.

    He isn't going hunting for foreigners to kidnap. I don't see anything wrong with that picture.
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    I think the kid is holding a toy gun.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    I couldn't tell that was a gun. I don't mind kids playing with toy guns, but I do think it sends a bad message when protesting. If that is a toy gun then I am not really so in favor of the lesson he is learning.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Yeah, I think what they are teaching him is to be a militant and that the Israelis and Jews should be destroyed.
     
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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Did you know that Hamas is a terrorist group? Dressing kids up as terrorists is truly awful. That man is the scum of the earth. :rolleyes:
     
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    hey isn't this video game popular in the mid-east?
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    (just kidding, dont declare holy war on me, only on juwan or stromile)
     
  20. tigermission1

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    What? Muslims are made fun of all the times as well, which is more thank OK. Here's what you're completely missing and having a hard time grasping: Making fun of individuals in a light-hearted manner is not the same thing as showing the sacred prophet and messenger of Islam being called a terrorist.

    Why are you struggling with that notion? I have in the past and will continue to object to disrespectful portrayal of sacred figures, whether it's Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, it's all the same to me.

    In Islam, Mohammed is not considered better than Jesus or Moses, they're all considered equal in Islam and are regarded the same level of respect.

    And no, I am no defending the nuts who're threatening violence and kidnappings, go back and read my earlier posts and stop misleading.
     

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