is it allah's responsibility alone to train these wild untamed animals? islam teaches me not to take revenge. who will teach the animals islam? should they know better on their own? boycotting a countries goods is revenge, no?
hotballa, Of course it's extreme, but those threatening violence are militants, and that's what militants do: threaten and carry out violent acts. The majority of Muslims around the world are very much offended by these cartoons, and while they protest it, they haven't threatened violence. I think people should be careful with overgeneralizations, neo-Nazis or the KKK or even religious extremists in America are not representative of Christians or the great religion of Christianity, you have to either apply the same standard across the board or you're a hypocrite. That's all I am seeing... The Danish have the right to publish whatever they want, and as a Muslim I reserve my right to use all means I have at my disposal to protest that paper's denegration and complete lack of respect for Muslims worldwide; it's more than just a cartoon, you don't portray the prophet as a terrorist and get away with it, enough is enough...
a cartoon in poor taste is hardly an excuse for the level of violence we are seeing around the WORLD some people are just looking for any excuse to get violent.
No, boycotting a country's goods is not 'revenge', it's simply rational to refuse to deal with people that don't even respect you and think you're beneath them...Do you insist on shopping at the same store if you're rediculed by the store manager? Same thing here.
why not write a cartoon making fun danes or have some peaceful protests? a cartoon in poor taste does not give anyone a right to violence, right now the sterotype that all muslims are violent is playing out perfectly.
May be because some people have more class than to make fun of those whom others hold dear? I know, it's a foreign concept to some of you... "Playing out Perfectly"? Did the 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide carry out violence to protest the cartoons? Get your facts straight. Even the militants in Gaza didn't kill anyone to my knowledge. And yes, you're right, there shouldn't be a violent response, I already stated so. We don't disagree on that.
what i'm saying about the sterotype is every news cast has radicals burning flags, marching around shooting guns in the air, and all that stuff. i understand most muslims are upset, but not violent about this cartoon. it just seems at the drop of hat we see these kinds of reactions, there must be a better way.
I question the idea of only a handful of extremists are behind this. Obviously extremists doesn't represent the religion. But if there is only a couple isolated cases, then they wouldn't get this much play in the international media.
I think people here are just sick of problems in the middle east. there have been issues with the middle east since the 70s. yes blame it on george bush when he was in college, he ticked off the whole region.
Since when is media coverage indicative of 'facts'? Negative news and images are always more news-worthy regardless of the circumstance. The "norm" (which is no voilence and just people going about their daily affairs) is not something that makes the news, the news is about coverage of things that didn't go right, disasters and the such. That's just how it's always been. If you can't discern the difference between media coverage and facts on the ground, then the problem is with your faulty perception of reality, not the ratings-hungry media.
Just another media organization...but it's unique in the Middle East, and it's good for the region as far as I am concerned.
Your territory? Your bubble? is this what it's like to be a zealot? for the love of having some guts to think for yourself and not creating some mental bubble thats weak and without substance that it can be touched and intimidated by cartoons, think about what your saying. Mental territory you say. Don't get in your mental territory? so society has to come at you and be careful not to offend you and this mental bubble you have created made out of your beliefs by way of islam? 'my beliefs, don't touch them, I will slap you' I've heard a woman say that but never a man, that's interesting.
So even though its just another media organization, it's good because its in the Middle East? It sounds like you're picking and choosing. BTW, there are thousands calling for some sort of "vengeance" it looks like. Should we still classify them as only militants? You also have religious leaders telling their followers that people's heads need to be cut off for this. I got respect for yah Tiger, I just think you're fighting a losing battle when you espouse the "peace" of Islam. People like me who have seen leaders of entire countries call for the head of Salman Rushdie because of the Satanic Verses just can't take it seriously, since every single criticism of Islam is returned with some sort of violent reaction. Put it this way, you don't see Dan Brown having to worry about being killed do you? Satanic Verses = bounty on Salman Rushdie's head. Leaders of Muslim nations call for his head The Da Vinci Code = a bazillion times more successful than the Satanic Verses, yet there are no reported death threats. Nor are there any calls for Dan Brown's head from the Vatican nor other sects of Christianity. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183686,00.html
Sounds like you have low reading comprehension skills. Al-Jazeera is good for the Arab World because it caused an earthquake in the region when it challenged state-controlled media and became a venue in which Arabs could debate issues and criticize governments. It started a good trend and media in the Arab world is much freer today than it was ten years ago, thanks to Al-Jazeera. Also, unless you are fluent in Arabic and have watched Al-Jazeera for yourself, don't make judgements, you will come out looking like the ignorant one if your source is Faux News or some other third party. Judge for yourself if you're capable of doing so. Those are protests, the article mentions the Palestinian militants carrying out some violent acts, but as for the rest how are those "violent"? As long they didn't kill anyone it's not violent, regardless of rhetoric. Again, more misleading info on your part. When did I ever espouse the "peace" of Islam? Ask anyone on this board what I have always said, but in your case it's worth repeating: Islam is neither peaceful nor violent, but it can be a tool for both given the situation. I don't need you or anyone else to believe Islam is peacful, because it ain't. Generalize much? "Every single criticism of Islam is returned with some sort of violent reaction"? You've got to be kidding me! It's alright if you don't take Islam "seriously", you don't take it "seriously" because you have a bias point of view as a devout Christian, that's to be expected and nothing wrong with that. It's easier to dimiss the other side. You're free to have your own views, and you can even print them if you like.
I thought we were having a good discussion because I've always found you respectful. I will let your comments speak for themself. I've never given you the high-handed treatment, I only ask for the same consideration in future threads as I'm not going to bother going any further with this "discussion"
