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Carrot on a Stick

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by foo82, Dec 16, 2010.

  1. Cannonball

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    I'm with you. I'm not going to devote my Sundays to Texans football anymore if Kubiak is still the coach. It'd be pointless.

    Stolen from Texans Talk.

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  2. rocketshopeful

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    get ready. kubiak is not going anywhere. he is not going to pay someone else while he pays kubiak and the rest of his assistants.
     
  3. conquistador#11

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    Bobby might have well asked the other owners if his jeans made him look fat.
    =/


    Eses knocking each other out, the owner makes changes ASAP. The team underachieves...ehhh..we're fine. Let's stick with the guys we have.
     
  4. Rookie34

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    McNair has s*it in his eyes, that's for sure! Man, this redneck lunatic makes me angry!
    He is trowing talent away like AJ, I hope AJ demands a trade if Kub is still here next year!
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    Honestly, I think too much is being made of these comments. It's not like he called a press conference and made some grand announcement saying everything is A-OK.

    Some reporter probably caught him as he was on the way out the door and asked a quick question, then got a quick answer. What is he supposed to say? "I've very pissed and I will be firing Gary Kubiak at the end of the season. Thank you very much."

    I'm willing to give Bob the benefit of the doubt here and just assume he's trying not to tip his hand. For all we know he could be talking to Bill Cower right now.

    Of course....if he DOESN'T fire Gary at the end of the year, I will eat crow and join the rest of you in calling him a complete idiot. Believe me.
     
  6. Dubious

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    All the coaches in the NFL are the cream of the crop in the profession. All are trying everything to win. The ranks of the assistants and scouts are just an incestuous, nepotist merry-go-round of the same people the same families.
    Of the 32 teams, 12 are going to make the playoffs and 20 are not. The average team will be 8-8. Other than maybe the top 5 teams, and they are primarily defined by the level of their quarterback play, the margin of victory in an NFL game is usually determined by turnovers and injuries to key players; non-predictable non-controllable factors.

    By statistical average any team can only expect to win a Super Bowl once every 32 years. True they should make a playoff game once every 3 years and the Texans are way behind that.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't change coaches, Coach Kubiak's system does not inspire me. And for Rick Smith, the state of the DB's should have been addressed (though not by paying Dunta $11million).

    What I am saying is we need to recognize that success in the NFL is a crapshoot and getting a new coach is just part of that, not a sure fire course . You need 1. A great quarterback who can read and react to make the choice for greater efficiency 2. Pressure from the defensive line, to make the opposing QB make mistakes 3. good luck in your injury situation because the drop off to the replacement player is at least 32 steps down.

    Have passion, because it's fun. But realize ultimately success or failure is the result of a thousand ebbs and flows of providence. I happen to be a UT, Cowboys, Texans, Astro's and Rocket's fan. If I didn't have some stoicism about it I might have jumped off a bridge this year.
     
  7. MadMax

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    I do not expect to be excited about next season.

    that kinda sucks.
     
  8. MadMax

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    No offense, but this sounds so weak. What we're doing isn't working...but let's not make a change because it also might not work with someone else leading the ship. I can't imagine running ANY organization that way...but especially not a pro sports franchise, which is ENTIRELY a bottom-line business.

    We're not talking about Super Bowls. We're talking about mere playoff appearances....of which, this franchise has exactly 0 in 9 seasons.

    No current coach in the NFL has gone 5 playoff-less seasons without being axed. We're now talking about whether we give him a 6th season.

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  9. rhino17

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    this way of thinking makes absolutely no sense. the Broncos will be paying 3 head coaches next season because they realized their mistakes and want to win, they dont give a **** about the money. he texans are a significantly more profitable team than the broncos. McNair obviously doesnt give a **** about the winning.
     
  10. sealclubber1016

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    2007 8-8
    2008 8-8
    2009 9-7
    2010 8-8 (best case)

    It doesn't take a genius to figure out this isn't improving. In fact we are astoundingly consistent.

    For three years now we've lost winnable games, and after the season they say "if we can just win those games".

    Well we don't win them. Every team starts at .500 (0-0). We always find a way to end the the year right where we started, at .500. We find wild ways to get there, but we always end up about the same place. McNair isn't a stupid man, this regime is what it is, i wish he would realize that, but I don't think he will.
     
  11. Rocket River

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    ALSO . . .for the RECORD

    The Texans 2-14 . . IMO was not really a 2-14 Team
    They were bad. . they were REALLY BAD
    but
    There were some games I think if they tried they could have won.

    It was a team that gave up on its coach.
    Not unlike Dallas. Which easily could have ended up 2-14 with Wade
    One boss let his coach ride it out til the end of the season
    the other boss is Jerry Jones.

    Rocket River
     
  12. MadMax

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    i heard a caller on the radio this morning nail it:

    i think bob mcnair really likes winning.

    i do not think bob mcnair really hates losing.
     
  13. Major

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    McNair hasn't said Kubiak is staying as of yet. I think he should have been gone last year, but there was justification for keeping him. There's none this year - let's wait until January before indicting him. Owners are never going to tell a coach he's going to be fired before he's actually fired. Until then, anything the owner says is going to be positive, so trying to read the tea leaves at this point is not very useful.
     
  14. VesceySux

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    It was probably the other AFC South owners, and why not? They have a vested interest in the Texans staying status quo:

    Texans - AFC South Standings
    2002: 4th (last)
    2003: 4th - tied (last)
    2004: 3rd
    2005: 4th (last)
    2006: 4th (last)
    2007: 4th (last)
    2008: 3rd
    2009: 2nd
    2010: 4th - currently (last)

    The Texans have been bottom dwellers in the division for 5 out of the 8 years they've been in existence... and they're in real danger of making it 6 for 9 this year.

    "Hey Bob, your team is great! Don't change a thing!" - the other AFC South owners

    :mad:
     
  15. rockets934life

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    Heard that caller, couldn't agree more. I really hope the crowd turns on the Texans during their finally regular season game. Who knows if that would wake him up but at least it might embarrasses him enough to consider something different.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    Forget the AINTS
    Here comes the EXans Fans!!!!

    [Maybe we can where paper bags over our heads too]

    Rocket River
     
  17. macalu

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    nice knowing you. we had our bad times...and...uh...more bad times.
     
  18. DieHard Rocket

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    This is pretty sure, with a small asterisk next to the last sentence...

    *as long as he is making a lot of money

    As long as Bob has hope and has his profits, things aren't going to change.
     
  19. Fyreball

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    The biggest thing that irks me about this whole thing is that, before the season started, everybody in the organization had the battle cry of "PLAYOFFS OR BUST! NO EXCUSES! THIS IS THE YEAR!" But now that they HAVE busted, we get garbage like "We're SOOOO close....we're on the right track!" All this organization DOES is make excuses, and give people second, third, and fourth chances to fail over and over again. It's tiresome that we as fans have to sit here and watch this complacent franchise pass up opportunity after opportunity while other fan bases get to enjoy fruitful years because their ownership wasn't inept. You've got teams in Tampa Bay, St. Louis, Kansas City, Oakland, Miami, etc who have ALL hired coaches AFTER Kubiak was hired enjoying more success than the Texans have even SNIFFED. It's downright pathetic and embarrassing at this point, but not to Bob McNair, and that's the problem.
     
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  20. Fulgore

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    "Were on the right track" Yea and its a cliff at the end of that imaginary track. So he's keeping Boob-iak, and around April when the schedule comes out they will do their annual b****ing about how tough the schedule is, go 7-9 next season with Boobiak saying blame it on him and McNair will say we are not that far off. Simply amazing.
     

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