That's a swipe at something Ric said, not at your post. And, I believe he's referring to his own take (in a sarcastic tone) as the "more irresponsible speculation".
LOL. I was annoyed, not upset. But it looks like I'm the only one confused about the reference. I have to follow Ric more, I guess. :]
Fill me in guys, I know Carr was signed to an extension last season but how does that affect the Texans financially if he were to get cut? Are the Texans obligated to pay him the rest of the money ala Matt Maloney if he gets cut? If Carr is traded, does his new team pick up the rest of the extension? Thanks for the info.
Unlike NBA and MLB, NFL contracts are not guaranteed. They're only on the hook for the remaining $4 million of his bonus, which they could spread out over two years if they so desire. The $4 million (or $2 million for 2 years) counts against the cap as well.
So, back to a point from the Plummer discussion: is Matt Schaub enough of an upgrade to essentially pay $2 million his roughy $7 million the first two years? (In the opinion of many here, Plummer was *not*.)
My 2cents. Matt has that ever elusive yet overused word "potential" to him. He hasn't really been tested much and we are betting on his potential of what's been seen in the few games he's done (mostly preseason). Plummer, the guy is a retread vet, he is what he is, no surprises there.
Schaub is in a different class than Plummer(who never had much talent) and Garcia(who was shaped by the system..his last year notwithstanding).Matt's younger,more talented,and definitely warrants taking things to another level,shelling out the money and the picks.
honestly? i'm still trying to wrap my brain around it. there're so much to consider... this much i know for sure: the texans are an infinitely more interesting team today than they were two days ago. kubiak skates on the carr situation - carr embodied the previous regime (right or wrong). but kubiak gets NO free pass with schaub - he better NOT be wrong about this guy, because, when you really think about it, they gave up $48M ($20M guaranteed, right?), 2 2's, 2006, $8M AND vince young. that aspect, when tossed into the existing mario williams situation, makes this an exciting team to watch, if only to see how these two guys - can we call them "risks" for ease? - pan out. if they both fail......... otherwise, i'm rabidly curious how we got to here in the span of 13 months. does this mean kubiak had no say in carr's extension whatsoever? and if not, how did he wrestle/command mcnair's trust with a, imo, less than stellar first-year performance? did he work out a deal with mcnair last february; "i'll give david carr one year - if he doesn't work out, i want the power to go in another direction"? and if so, did that (maybe) impact his approach to carr? if kubiak had any say in extending carr, then i'm most certainly dubious of schaub for obvious reasons. if kubiak was an innocent bystander last year, shoved to the curb by casserly, then i'm angry and furious that that ****stick held counsel with mcnair til his last dying breath with this franchise, and if so, it makes last year's draft that much more aggrevating. and above all else, what role/responsibility does mcnair play in all of this? does he cede complete control to his GM? did he strongarm the carr situation last year? and if so, what changed his mind? performance is the easy answer, but then, he signed off on a 3-year, $8M extension after carr's worst year as a pro. like i stated, i find it infinitely fascinating.
it was irresponsible (and was wholly unecessary, given carr's performance) to "suggest" something as a means to accomplish your (your = general, not yours, MM) end game; especially when such suggestions had no foundation. gigantic difference. speculation is fair game, and i would agree, carr is probably relieved. my guess is that one of two things could happen next year that will recast the carr era - schaub will struggle and we'll all feel bad we focused so much on carr; or carr will go elsewhere and thrive... and we'll all feel bad we focused so much on carr. i feel bad for carr, from a strictly football perspective. i think he got screwed. fwiw, i think they put mario in an equally unforgiving situation. the organization scares me - it seems every bit as incompetent as ever.... unless casserly was still puppet-mastering things last year, and that makes me angry for a whole separate reason.
Great post! Just might be that McNair is the one being snookered. He put alot of faith in Casserly and stood by smiling while player move after player move was botched- he didn't even know it was happening... Then he brought in Reeves who hoodwinked him with the obvious- fire the coach and Carr can be successful..... (we needed a new coach but don't think Reeves is the one I would listen to without getting a lot of other advice) Then he hires Kubiak and everybody feels warm and fuzzy about DC. So we extend him between the combined wisdom of McNair, Reeves, Casserly and a (I'm gonna be a head coach yeah!) new coach-Kubiak. No new coach wants to come in and say - Boss, you and Reeves and Casserly are wrong! So DC was inconsistent, did not show playmaking skills, and alienated players on both sides of the ball and I think Kubiak really made his statement in the Tenn. game when Sage went in. At that point he told McNair if things didn't change in the above noted areas we are going to have to look hard at this. The final straw in my opinion was fan sentiment, something I think McNair is much more sensitive to than he would ever admit. He wants to be viewed as a success. I think he is sincere and I think he is trying to bring a winner here. But he admitted today he made mistakes. Alot is riding on Matt Schaub for all concerned.
First of all Ric, loved your longer post above. Noone--not MM, not me--nobody did this. Search all day and you will not find it. You're making it up, and we all know how you feel about "making s*** up." ...unless Ric disagrees with it or counterspeculates that such speculation has an ulterior motive. It's so damn disingenuous, Ric.
in responding to MM, it certainly wasn't my intention for you to dredge this up again. i merely wanted to clarify MY POV at the time - it wasn't my intention to squelch speculation; but to try and cut-off the needless fuel being added to an already raging fire specific to the david carr situation. seriously, you both should move on... it was weeks ago...
good point. but would you not agree that now teams can just sit back and wait knowing that we will have to cut him due to his salary? Plus, if they don't trade for him, they don't have to pay all that contract money. Before we signed Schaub, we had the leverage of saying that we will just keep him...not now. Fortunately I have the perfect solution. Call Matt Millen right now and get something going. That moron would probably swap 1st round picks for Carr
On the flipside, if there are multiple teams that want Carr, they may want to trade for him instead of wanting to compete with other teams for his services.
