And then when they can't trade him the next season, maybe they can get him to sign another extension!!!
Only if we're lucky....they need to hold on to him till age 36 come hell or high water...to ENSURE that he doesn't go anywhere else and prosper no matter how unprosperous he might look at times. If he does, people will laugh at the Texans, and they will become the butt of jokes nationwide. This CAN NOT happen.
That's too risky, he might pull a Lance Briggs on the the Texans, and god knows the last thing the Texans need is a pissed off David Carr.
Here why I don't buy that argument: Before the season, before the draft, they gave Carr the big extension and did not even so much as glance in the direction of the QBs coming out of college. It's that contract plus the poor level of play by Carr during the season that has rendered him untradeable and the Texans have to know that. If a team has any interest in Carr, they can afford to wait out the Texans in much the same way the Texans were waiting out Denver for Plummer. If Carr gets released, then you can renegotiate his contract so why pick up his salary and bail out the Texans? Now, releasing Carr outright is simply not an option now because there's nobody left on the roster who can play QB well enough to make them at least competative and then there's that little issue of them committing to Carr, passing up top notch prospects in the draft and paying him all that money. After doing all that, they simply don't have the stones to turn around and publicly admit they made a mistake by dumping David Carr. I just don't buy it. Why trade Carr when you have no one to replace him? Do you really believe that they were prepared take the salary cap hit and go into the season with Sage, Van Pelt plus a another QB to be named later as your QBs? Exactly how competative would that be? More to the point, how many season tickets would that approach sell? And I maintain that if these guys are as sharp as you believe them to be, then they already had a good idea what Carr was worth on the open market which was not much so the absence of good substantive offers should have come as no surprise. This whole exercise is a matter of them simply going through the motions of trading David Carr for the sake oif going through the motions. In the end, nothing changes and we get another season of watching (and excusing) David Carr's play. The better option or options were there last year in the draft. Kubiak & Co blythely passed on those options and now we are supposed cut them some slack because they now have issues at the QB position? I don't think so. Not to be a hard ass here but what have they done to rate a mulligan on this decision? That always was the plan and their intention from day one. The rest is nothing more than smoke and mirrors from the Texans and their synchopants in the media. As I've said before, I remain skeptical of their motives and decision making.
Personally I liked your line that this "state of affairs" is just until the season ticket renewal checks clear the bank.
But that's just the point ima - this entire "trade thing" came not from the Texans but from folks like John McClain and Richard Justice and others speculating that he would be moved. Even when asked point blank about Carr being on the market, Richard Smith offered up the standard generic company line. No, Ric was right: this is about damage control. They can feel the anger out there but they can also see the rising indifference to their product. And that has to scare McNair more than anything but in hindsight, it really shouldn't. He let Capers and Casserly run his franchise in an Oiler-like manner so he shouldn't be surprised the he now is stuck with Oiler-like results. To Ric's position I would contend that it's also about marketing a bad product to a hostile or indifferent customer group.
I don't think the QB position alone will determine the team's fate. Although I would rather see a different QB, I think our defense and the rest of our offense can still improve with Carr.
If Russell or Quinn is on the board at 8 we will have to take one of them or suffer the backlash from fans and media alike. Only problem is they'll both be gone. I'm sure Kubiak would love to groom a QB, and would have taken one last year if he was not sold by the Texans organization that Carr had plenty of upside and just needed to be protected better and we we're just short a few pieces from winning. I'm sure they told that to everyone that interviewed because no coach would want to walk into a complete rebuilding situation like we're in. I think right now they're trying to go with the Bears strategy. It's a copycat league. Just build the rest of the entire team and worry about the QB last. Maybe in 4 years we'll have a monster defensive team that will only need an average QB to lead. Only problem is that takes alot of luck with late rounders and some darn good scouting. We haven't demonstrated any of that. I still wonder where Stanton will land and where the Texans have him ranked. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd use a 3rd round on him, but 2nd round? On top of everything else, we should try to get Briggs from the Bears, maybe they would also think Carr would be an improvement over Grossman.
4 more years and Vince Young will be hassling around with the franchise tag probably. Maybe he can stink it up one year for them and come home?
At this point we might the texans might as well stay the course and keep Carr. This is not a good year for drafting QB's in the first round. Plus, I'm 1 year removed from the VY draft debacle and can't entertain the idea of dating other QBs. We should just stick around with Ugly Betty.
I think the number of fans that dont want Quinn outweighs the number that do...there shouldnt be much backlash from fans for not going QB in the first.
I expect it to be ugly regardless of whatever minor FA pickups and moves they make here and there. These will help but the question remains as to exactly how much. The PR situation with David Carr as the QB will be absolutely brutal as the comparisons with VY will be merciless and without end. There's also the draft but the reality of their situation (at least to me ) is that they are a good 3 years away from being considered a contender and that's assuming that they somehow, by the grace of God, manage to solve their QB problems. Should they find themselves next year wondering what to do about David Carr once again, then that process could take even longer to come about. I really don't expect dramatic improvement in their record and in fact, it would not surprise me at all to see them go backwards to 4 or 5 wins. BTW, hey updawg, did you catch Richard Justice's column today? Now he's "confused" as to what the Texans are trying to do. I had myself a good laugh on that one.
Teams can turn it around in one season. See: Saints, 2006. Of course the questions to me are whether there is a (legit, bona fide, A#1) plan and the cap room requisite to effect said plan. One 'idea' I heard was for the texans to swap the #1 to NO and let them manage the rest of the draft and FAgency.
bad example. The Saints were much better in '05 than the record indicated. With no home field advantage and the reality of essentially playing on the road every game, coupled with the emotional damage of Katrina, the Saints were up against a wall with no chance to succeed. This allowed a very high draft pick the following year, plus the luck of Drew Brees (very serious injury and the Saints took a shot on him) and hitting on Colston.
