Carr Playing Well, Rest of team sucks...

Believe it or not, it's nothing personal. But, come on. The comparison is laughable at best. I dont dislike anyone on here but I am very passionate about my opinions and when I believe I am right I will defend them fiercely.

Thus, I maintain, my opinion that what PG said has got to be the dumbest post made here that I have read.

I'm not attacking him, I'm attacking his POV and opinion. I did not attack him personally or cuss him out, that is classless. I attacked his post he was trying to defend. If he cares to gives us a reason I'll listen but I think the previous 4 years of futility under Capers' regime speak for themselves. That's all I'm saying.

Nothing personal PG, I just think you've got it totally wrong. Enough said.

 

Come to think of it, I may have been a little too harsh in my analysis. I will try to be more objective in the future.

If I have offended anyone it's not my intention, just very passionate about my opinions.

Except for Smokey, he can bite me j/k.

 

frustration. fewer and fewer fans seem capable of objectively discussing sports; it's too often flooded with loud, obnoxious and usually asinine, uninformed opinions.

i understand frustration, but not when its allowed to override rational thought. fire this guy! trade that guy! so-and-so's a bust! they've played eight quarters. it's freaking rigoddamndiculous to draw any conclusions at this point.

they have a new general manager; a new head coach; a new offensive system; a new defensive system; and 9 starers who weren't even on the team last year. and my guess is that among the other 13 starters last week against the eagles, 5 or 6 more will not be here next year. they are literally turning over their roster.

they are the worst team in football. but they've stopped the bleeding and are in the process of dressing the wound. by week 9, i suspect the wound will look decidedly better. give it time.

 

This I do not agree with. The Raiders are by far the worst team in the league.

 

the steelers are still the defending champs, right...?

 

Does this mean the Astros get two more weeks as the NL's best team?

 

OK...the Texans may have the worst record from last year, but based on the first two games, I believe that it is safe to say that the Raiders are the worst team in 2006.

Better?

 

I've been in the dc area all week and it's interesting since we play them this week. anyway the radio jocks here are going on and on about how they would take david carr over brunell any day of the week. the skins are getting killed here.

these guys actually our carr fans and saying he could do more with better o-line, defense , etc....

 

The Longhorns are the best team in college football as well.

 

If you want to argue that it will get better that's fine, but at this point its worse.

as far as kubiak is concerned I'm not writing him off, but I usually argue with people about him because its seems like everyone just thinks its a given he's gonna be a better coach. we don't know that yet. Coordinator and Head Coach are two different animals.

Dom Capers was a good coordinator, it didn't translate to good head coach. Bill Belichik, remember his first head coaching job? I'm sure a lot of the things he learned from his failures is what makes him so successful today.

I'm not being pesimistic, I want the Texans to do well, but I'm not going to buy into this kubiak hype till I see results. I'm sure at least 90% of all head coaches were successul in what they did before being head coach. it doesn't mean they will be a successful head coach

 

ehhhh... not really; only because it's important for us to recognize where we've been so that we can properly put moving forward in perspective.

since week 8 of the 2004 season (which is when it seems the texans' fortunes changed), the worst records in football are:
cleveland, 7-20
tennessee, 7-20
oakland, 7-20
houston, 5-22.

my guess is that we'll win 4 this year, putting out record over a 40-game span at 9-31; i find it hard to believe any team will have fewer wins.

until further notice, we're the worst team in football.

 

I was reacting, I don't know what ric's deal is.

 

right.

"I think considering this team looks as bad as last season, I will say that firing Capers is a bad move. Its obvious he wasn't he problem."

please continue with not writing him off.

 

and where did I say fire someone, someone is a bust, etc. I said the football team was worse, that's my opinion, and I don't understand how anyone can say after watching the game that its just oh so much better that its ridiculous to say that its worse.

 

two different issues. firing capers may have been bad because if he wasn't the problem there was no need to start over.

 

So, if you watched all four of the Texans and Raiders games, you would still believe that the Texans are the worst team in football? 2004 and 2005 have absolutely no bearing on 2006. While the Texans have looked pretty pathetic 90% of the time, Oakland has 99.9% of the time.

I'm not saying it's something we should hang our hats on or anything, just trying to find the tiniest of silver linings.

 

Ok, I buy the take about Belichick, first job Cleveland marginally good if at all.

Capers, Cowher's defensive coordinator in the 90s, and with Kevin Greene and Greg Lloyd he could not go wrong.

The only thing I am disagreeing with you on is this, Capers did not help us offensively. Never got quality linemen to guard his million dollar armed QB, Carr. He was always throwing scraps on the line and hoping the pieces would fit. Seth Wand? Todd Wade? It was an insult and embarrassing.

Then, it seemed our organization was so busy being nice and cordial that they overinflated prospects when they really werent that good.

Capers never had Kevin Greene or a defensive rush pass specialist which was one of the key elements Capers had for at least a year when the Panthers went to the playoffs.

So, in retrospect, thinking this all out. It really made no sense to draft Carr because, we had no OL. Boselli did not even start a play and that really screwed us up at OL. So, they took a gamble there and lost. In fact, took a lot of gambles and Carr generally was the unwitting recipient of the gift.

If he, Capers was using logic for his type of success, then we should've taken Peppers instead of Carr.

My angst is Carr has never been given a legitimate opportunity for success. Maybe now, that tide is going to turn.

Another complaint about Capers was he was too damn conservative. Carr was and is a gunslinger. He should have given David the keys to the offense and said "go win the game." But he didnt, he would run almost in desperation to eat clock and eke out wins. That doesnt inspire confidence in your QB.

Bottom line, due to one outstanding, gilded successful year at Carolina, we, the Texans fans were duped into thinking he would be successful and just who we needed. Capers at this time is grossly overrated as a head coach.

 

You honestly think there was something salvageable from the crap they put together starting in 2002?

Don't let that 7-9 record fool you... that team was abysmal. Capers teams over-achieved... and if you want to give him credit for that, fine... but at some point, every team reaches the limits of what they can do under a certain leader (even if that leader is still techinically competent).

Its not Capers fault the team was constructed so awfully... but its not like we got rid of Vince Lombardi either. You can't argue against the fact that in-game adjustments weren't his strong suit... even if it was likely a personel issue more than anything.

 

Why Kuby? He has been part of a Super Bowl winner. Knows how to get there. Knows what it will take. How long? and with whom (on the roster) to get it done is the other question.

I wouldnt want you or anyone else to just go gaga over Kubiak when we are presently short on results.

But I do note that he is/has been making adjustments during games to improve or in our present case, stop the bleeding.

Capers is a good, standup guy but, he really left Gary a big mess.

Only time will tell unfortunately the how and when.

IMHO, I think winning time starts this week with the 'Skins.

 

Ok PG, one other note. The Texans were NOT Capers' first rodeo. He spent 3 years at Carolina ('96-'99). So, he kind of should have had a pretty good idea how to help develop a team, right?

Not criticizing, just stating a fact.