No, the switch in defenses doesn't matter. The change in playbook on the offensive side of the ball does matter, though. And do you think that Carr would be starting if the Texans had a capable veteran like the Falcons did last year in Chris Chandler? I don't. Carr has the experience of 4 years in college...a couple of more than Vick did. No, it's not the NFL - but it's more than nothing.
Michael Vick - Brian Finnerann, Willie Jackson, Shawn Jefferson David Carr - Jabar Gaffney, Corey Bradford, Jermaine Lewis Two of the worst WR corps in the league yet one of these guys will probably have a huge season due to the pure talent of their QB's. The fact that Carr played good against a suspect secondary doesn't impress me a whole lot, what does impress me is his confidence level at this stage in his career. The Only Offensive edge Vick has right now is Warrick Dunn. Dunn is a very underrated back who scored twice against the Packers. Still, I think Vick will have an outstanding career. I think his career will largely follow the path of McNabb's. play a few games in the 1st year, Show some nice moves, nothing special. Season 2, Main guy, Understands Offense, Very sucessful.
Knowledge of the playbook, studying NFL defenses on film, practice with the first team and most importantly maturing. Look lets do this. Let's agree that both Houston and Atlanta are very happy with their qb situation, and wish each other mutual success. It is quite impossible for either of us to look at a rookie and second year qb and guess with any accuracy who's gonna be better. Realistically it's just a grand old pissing contest that is below all of us. Good luck Texans.
Go look back at my first post on this thread. I never declared one better than the other. Its just too early for these discussions.
Carr did not start his first two years at Fresno State so he only started two seasons in college just like Vick and both of them redshirted a year. I don't think two years of Carr mostly standing on the sidelines his first two years in college would equal Vick's one year of experience in a longer NFL season without time restrictions on when he could be coached.
casserly has said, had they been picking in 2001, vick would've been their choice. of course, they weren't picking in 2001, but... htownhero, since i started the whole "vick has more experience" thread... two nfl training camps DWARF two extra years of college. how often vick played in games is irrelevant (though he played in quite a few); all the acclimation and learning that carr's doing this year vick got to do last year. he's a year ahead of carr in terms of development.
IF vick throws a better deep ball, then I am impressed. Carr's arm is alot stronger than what I gave him credit for. That pass to Lewis was a frozen rope of about 60 yards in a game situation. Usually, receivers wait on deep balls, but apparently not with Carr. It's all relative though. Elway and Favre both have cannons. Whose arm is stronger? Don't know, and it doesn't matter. Both Vick's and Carr's arms are plenty strong enough.
I'd take Vick, and though it's not set in stone that he'll be a better qb, I think he has a pretty good chance. Carr still rocks though, and has a better organization behind him to surround him with a better team imo.
Well, I know that... the Texans definitely wanted to pursue a QB with the top pick, and Vick was about the only franchise QB in 2001. Anyone who wanted a QB would be "hell-bent" on getting him in that draft. However, translating that to future drafts isn't very reasonable.
vick no doubt. I am so pisse dthat he declared for the draft last year. But did you see his contract 10million a year and carr makes 6.85million a year. Based on money you can tell who will be better. Vick will be one of the all time best once he gets experience and better passing accracy,(spell check)
Thats a great way to look at it. Whoever makes more money is better. I guess Juwan Howard is better than Steve Francis. Oh yeah, and just for the record, lets look at the contracts of the two players: Vick: 8 years, 62 million, 15.3 mill in first 3 years. Carr: 7 years, up to 60 million, 16 mill in first 3 years. You do the math.
Carr dove head first for a 1st down against dallas. He can play hard too. Vick is a big boy though. I'd just say let's wait and see. Both bring very different things to the table. One disadvantage to Vick is that he is a lefty. The WR's will not be accustomed to catching his ball. But neither will the Db's.
Not to be too rude, but this has to be hands down the most ignorant post I've ever read! Money = talent? I hope you weren't thinking when you typed that and that isn't your true opinion. If so, then I guess Juwan Howard is one of the top 5 playes in the NBA and Ryan Leaf with his $11.25 million signing bonus was a fantastic quarterback!
Steve - You really need to stop posting about stuff you know nothing about. The NFL is not a game of monopoly. Just Because Aaron Brooks made 500k last season makes him worse than Ryan Leaf? Your rational is as twisted as... Sinbad's take on marriage.
