I've seen a few of his VTech games on tv, only a few highlights from last year. That's why I don't claim to be an authority on Vick or Carr for that matter. I'm just telling what I've heard.
BY the way, "Mr.Mobility" rushed for 72 yards Sunday, 5th best in the NFC. By the way, "Mr.Mobility" has a 8.0 average, 2nd Best in the league.
By the way, the passing numbers aren't close either. Vick 15-23 209 yds 1 td 0 int 108.8 rating 10th in league Carr 10-22 145 yds 2 td 1 int 78.8 rating 23rd in league
You want to compare Vicks rookie year, when he was firmly entrenched as a backup, took 0 snaps with the first team, coming off of 2 college years in the VaTech offense with Carr's, where he knew he was the starter since before the draft, was a four year starter in a passing offense, taking every snap with the first team? Isn't that kinda reaching?
Hmmm one team played Green bay in Green bay and the other had Dallas at home. Man, you're right....Vick's a loser!
No, its not reaching. The NFL game is completely different than the pro game. I dont care if someones played 8 years of college ball or 2 years of college ball. When they get to the pro level, its a whole new ballgame. Thats why there are busts like Ryan Leaf and surprises like Tom Brady.
Just so we're clear on this, you ARE saying that staying for 4 years does nothing to help a qb prepare for the NFL?
In most cases, it does help to stay in college. But, the facts remain the same. There have been hundreds of busts that played all 4 years. There have also been hundreds of players who have played well despite playing less than 4 years in college. The reason: The NFL is different than NCAA football. If everything was so simple, there would never be any players taken who didnt have 4 years of college ball under their belts.
So in most cases it helps to stay for four years, but not when it hurts your argument? Carr would have been ready to start at the NFL level after his soph year right? C'mon man thats absurd and you know it.
Dude, it obviously helps to stay all 4 years. But thats not always the case. You cant just blame Vick's rookie year performance on the fact that he played 2 less years of college ball than Carr.
I agree, but it's equally dumb to discuss Vick's stats this week as a reason for him being better. Vick is with a supporting cast with some explosive weapons and a team that was in the Super Bowl just three years ago. Carr is with an expansion team. Before you compare passing numbers, wait for Carr to at least get an offensive line. It's not an even playing field right now... not even close. Show me one quote where the Texans said this. That was media hype. Hell, the Texans practically committed to Carr last November, but as late as February people were trying to stir up stories that Houston was leaning to taking Joey Harrington or Bryant McKinnie at number one! Most teams don't reveal their plans to the media, and if they do, most people think it's some conspiracy and look somewhere else. The fact is, guys like Vick from big name schools that competed for national championships are going to get more hype than a quarterback for Fresno St., no matter how good he is. An Olympic track star couldn't have avoided half of those sacks with the Texans offensive line. Hype, flash, and Sportscenter. Nomar was one of the ones that thought we were fools for not taking Bryant McKinnie number one... some of the arguments we had back in those days made it very, very apparent that he didn't know Carr's game well.
I got a question for you. You are saying that Vick barely played last year, thus, he is basically at the same level that Carr is at. So, how do you explain Vicks growth from last year to this year? Like I said earlier, it doest matter that Vick didnt play much last year. What is more important is that Vick learned a lot on the sideline. This is the experience that Vick has that Carr doesnt have. That is why it is unfair to compare Vicks numbers with Carr's numbers right now.
