Yeah it's actually better when they pull out their false teeth, preventing the temptation to bite the weenie. LOL.
They're just taking the 'company line' POV. After Sage's performance in the second half, you cant tell me they would rather have David struggling again when Sage looks like he knows what the hell he is actually doing out there.
Of course they don't. They also know that for the vast majority of the season, Carr hasn't looked like he did on Sunday.
I do not blame Carr for anything. All I know is what I saw when Sage entered the game in the 2nd half, and that's the best quarterbacking I've seen out of the Texans.... ever. Sage looked all over the field mixing up short, middle, and deep passes. I saw his eyes checking to several different receivers. Even when Carr has one of his "good games" the offense never looks that fluid. Bottom line is I don't think Sage panic's when a pass rush is on him like Carr does.
Carr is going nowhere, during this season. He might get benched, but Kubiak wants to get the best Carr can give. After the season, a decision will need to be made. On 610, I heard someone tossing around Kolb in the 4th round would be a wake-up call to Carr. I think it would be a good pick. I certainly don't think we need another first round QB. I might be up for trading the pick, to fill in more holes. It's still too early to get into this. I might see who the top prospects are and catch their college games. That was the only thing I could salvage from last year, but then we passed on Bush. I just don't know anymore.
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I agree, I think they need to give Carr every chance the rest of the season. If he busts, then we think about replacing him next year in the draft or in the FA market. There is no point in starting Sage, he is not a long term solution.
This is actually why I thought they should have drafted Vince....give Carr some competition, he has been pampered far far far too long. DD
If Carr doesn't work out, see if they can trade him to Oakland for the Raiders first round pick in 2007. You know Al Davis loves a QB who can throw the deep ball. Send him some clips of how far Carr can launch a football, it would be a done deal.
Curious. That's exactly what happened to Jim Plunkett and we all know how that story ended for both Plunkett and the Raiders. The parallels between Carr and Plunkett are downright eerie.
I didn't watch the whole game yesterday, but I still wasn't enormously impressed with Carr. He didn't screw up. And he did run for a TD. But that's about it. And I think even that modicum of success is due to Kubiak dumbing down the decision making process for him. Of the top 30 passers by total yardage, his 9.59 yards/completion is 29th (in fact, he's one of only 4 of them to be under 10.0 in this category), but he's 20th by yards per attempt and yardage overall. He's number 1 in completion % of that group, and has a decent TD/Interception ratio, but at only 9 TD's is just average there. Which all means that he's done a good job of little rinky dink passes that can get some yardage, but isn't that thrilling. All-in-all, still find David Carr to be exceedingly average, at best. Kubiak has treid his hardest to keep him out of trouble - which Carr did manage to screw up against Tennessee - and that has resulted in some positive movement in a number of important, but not all-encompassing categories. Hindsight may prove that picking Young and dropping Carr would have been the smarter move, but I'm not yet sold on that. What I do continue to question is the 3 year pickup on his contract as oppossed to just 2...why did they do this? Additionally, I think if there is any season to find out what Carr can and can't do, it's this season. We now know he can be a decent quarterback if the system isn't too complicated...but he still has difficulty consistently getting the team to score. Why not add some new wrinkles to the offense that try and see if we can up that yards/catch, up the number of touchdowns while still maintaining a solid TD/Interception ratio, and up the scoring (if at the expense of completion ratio, that's ok). I personally don't think Carr will be successful doing it, but you've got to try. And, though I've mentioned it before, I think it makes sense to give Sage a chance, too. He's had one great half. See if he can do that consistently. If he can, where Carr couldn't, it tells you something about Sage and Carr. I still fail to see any significant downside to either of the above suggesstions...we can't possibly be concerned about hurting Carr's feeling anymore.
Yea sure....thats why you really wanted Vince. : You have said all along that Mario wasnt worth the # 1 pick. Well he has 4.5 sacks in his last 5 games...I think he was well worth the pick.
Not that DaDa needs any defense from me, but I *do* remember him saying that. And, I remember thinking (but not posting), "why would I spend the top pick of the draft to give 'competition' to one of my starters??"
QUESTION: to the SAGE HATERS . . people constantly saying. . well . . if he was good. . hed be starting somewhere. . . so my question is. . has he even had HALF A CHANCE??? . .I'm not asking for the 4 and a half years of chances D.Carr has. . how about just a few gameS??? Rocket River come on . . I love a good QB controversy . . ain't had on here in a while TOO LONG!!
Great observations. I totally agree. Carr's "upside," if there's any left at this point, is to "excel" at being average. There'll be games like vs the Jags where he'll play good to great, and there'll be games like vs the Titans where he's piss poor. But over all, he'll be like he was against the Giants, just "average" (not allowed to do anything to lose the game, and consequently not doing much to win). Why did the Texans make the 3 yr, multi-mil$ commitment? Why the love affair with mediocrity at QB? Why build your team around Jake Plummer? I'm thinkin' McNair didn't want to make the tough decision to cut his boy loose so he hired some credible "football minds" (cuz Casserly wasn't credible anymore) to sell the idea that "we can win with him." Not whether DC could be good or great mind you, but that "we can win with him." Now ask yourself what does that mean exactly? Then you'll understand why they drafted high on Defense. Because great D is what you need when you've got Trent Dilfer or Jake Plummer running your offense. Remember what they've been trying to tell us about Gary Kubiak? That he can rebuild DC ala Jake Plummer? Now, why you want to build your team that way is a mystery to me. As I recall, the Ravens won a championship and promptly dumped their Dilfer. After Plummer's resurrection, the Broncos promptly drafted a QB in the 1st round. Even the Bucs cut off their Johnson a year or so after winning it all. Clearly, a great defense can help you win with an average QB (even a top-of-the-trashheap or serviceable QB that you've been forced to settle on out of necessity). But why did the Texans/McNair willingly choose an average QB as part of their blueprint for success is just bafflling to me. They even went so far as to select a coach, in Kubiak, for the express purpose of making DC serviceable. I can only imagine how puzzled the Texans brain trust must have been on draft day when Denver shot the "Jake Plummer experiment" all to hell as they drafted Jay Cutler in the first round.
Carr is NOT average, theWigMan. How do you explain such high QB Rating if he is "average"? He doesn't throw DIFFICULT passes... people drop his passes for some other reason than him not putting them in the numbers... aside from that pass into QUADRUPLE COVERAGE against the Titans. WOW. A Rocket River post without HARD CARRIAGE returns. Awesome. Hey, I am not a Sage Hater... I am simply saying that Carr is NOT done... that this is still Carr's position, and he has proven and bounced back so many times already. The fact of the matter is that Kubiak decides that if Carr has a good game and bounces back, there's no point in starting the backup. How can you justify starting a backup if the starter does well? The only time the backup can show he's really good is if the starter has a long-time injury. This was the case in Arizona with Leinart and in New England with Brady. Both times the backup showed much better than the starter, and the coaching staff decided to keep the backup as the main man. Look, Sage has had time to prove this. Perhaps his agent has not ever pursued a "starting" job at a club that REALLY needs one? All I'm saying, is all.
Are you being sarcastic ? He didn't suck this past weekend against the Giants. He had a dismal game against DALLAS, and bounced back against JACKSONVILLE. He had a really really bad game that started this controversy against Tennessee, and bounced back against Giants. Are you implying that when the Texans lose, Carr does NOT bounce back ?
