Moon led his team to the playoffs in his 4th and 5th seasons and made the pro bowl. Why is this a valid comparison to Carr?
same number as dan marino... if only they had the heart and leadership skills of a trent dilfer......
Same number as Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Len Dawson, Dan Fouts and Fran Tarkenton. "Count the Rings" is a poor arguement point when talking football.
in moon's fifth season (1988), he was playing with munchak, mathews, steinkuler, jeffires and white - all five were 1st round picks. yesterday, carr had one first round pick on his side of the ball. point is, it took moon nearly 4 full years in the nfl (plus, iirc, five in the cfl) to achieve a status most are expecting of carr, and the team he played for did a much better job building around him.
Moon had more yards and TD's in his first 4 season but overs 20 more picks also. First 2 seasons were in CFL i believe.
I wonder WHICH QUARTERBACK has thrown him the ball... And he has NEVER EVER dropped a great pass, huh? I wonder how many RECEIVERS that QB has to throw to. Next thing you're going to tell me is that Tony Romo is the best player on the Cowgirls' team.
Funny how the original post in here indicated this was about Bledsoe and Romo under different names... No way.
All of the Falcon's WR's were first round picks. They all still suck though. Munchack & Matthwes were studs and Moon certainly had more protection than Carr. But are you really going to try to compare Carr on the field to Moon in his early years? Seriously..... Question...has their ever been a QB given as much leeway as David? Damn, it's 5 seasons man. I'm sorry your line sucks. I'm sure you aren't the only QB to have a crappy line. Time to move in another direction, because the direction with Carr isn't working for whatever reason/excuse you wanna give.....
Moulds is a probowler look at Edgerin James without Peyton Manning. put Moulds and Andre Johnson on the Colts and put Harrison and Wayne on the Texans and see what happens.
Yeah, it's all Carr. It has nothing to do with that fantabulous OL that allowed Carr to be sacked more than any other player in league history through his first four years. What about those spectacular receivers like Jabar Gaffney or Corey Bradford. They're tearing up the league right now, huh? How about all those quality TEs David Carr had as weapons? Of course, the only reason AJ is a pro-bowler and is considered one of the best receivers in the game is because only Sage Montana and Tony Brady have thrown him the ball. David Carr doesn't even look his way.
Chronicle From the Chronicle article which I finally read...Even though Sage Rosenfels came off the bench to throw three touchdowns in the second half, coach Gary Kubiak said emphatically after the game that Carr is still the starter. "He was very (mad) and should have been," Kubiak said. "That's a tough pill to swallow. "To be great in this league, you've got to pay a tremendous price. You've got to go through a lot, but I expect him to bounce back next week and have a good game (against the New York Giants)." Carr should remained benched, but yet again, he's bailed out...Show some real ballz...
It's not all Carr. But part of it is him. You don't find it strange at all that Sage didn't have these same issues yesterday. I would like to see another QB back there to see what the problems really are. My problem with Carr is he is an average QB to me, but not paid like one. Honestly, do you ever say to yourself "I am counting on Carr to bring us a win, as opposed to not make mistakes and blow it"?
Sage would not do that from the starting gun. The defense was clearly relaxed. He came into a situation where the opposing team had a huge lead, and when the threat of an comeback showed itself, our defense couldn't stop them from sealing the coffin. It's Sage's fault that the Titans scored points 23-28 under most of logic in here.
LOL - Marino is certainly a great leader, but that doesn't always mean you win......it all. I was being a little sarcastic when talking about Moon, of course as an Oilers fan I knew how many championships he won... Of course that takes good teamates, and some luck...especially in Dilfer's case, who by the way took his inspiration from Ray Lewis...as a teamate. DD
you're right. let's change that to "count the times they came within 5 games of a playoff berth". i'm willing to book any and all bets for any and all amounts of money that carr will never sniff the playoffs as starting qb of the houston texans. there is a 0% chance of that happening. he is a worthless loser. get it through your heads and give it up, people. i don't understand how people can possibly still support him. it's just like the ausmus and biggio idiots on the astros threads. do you guys just like watching him because he's good-looking or something? alongside andrew walter, david carr is the worst starting quarterback in the league. it blows my mind that so many of you still support him. what unknowledgable fans this city has. makes me sad.