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Carmelo, anyone?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by QazQay, Feb 25, 2014.

  1. Another Brother

    Another Brother Contributing Member

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    I think that years ago when Kobe and Michael were taking over games it was important for a player to "be the man" on a team, but with the blueprint that first the Celtics and then the Heat have utilized it's pretty obvious that superstardom within the team concept is possible.

    How about the other superstars who were never champions before joining other superstars??
    KG
    Pierce
    LeBron
    Shaq
    Wade
    Gasol

    San Antonio is an enigma and Dallas...well eff Dallas.;)
     
  2. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    You aren't choosing between Parsons and Melo.

    You are choosing between Melo and whoever we would SnT for him (likely Lin, Asik + pick)

    It is a no brainer.
     
  3. count_dough-ku

    count_dough-ku Contributing Member

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    Look, maybe Melo can co-exist with Harden and Howard, but I have serious doubts. If the Rockets are gonna spend max money on another superstar, Love or Aldridge are better fits.

    And BTW, who says the Rockets even need a 3rd superstar? As far as I can see, they've got a pretty damn solid starting lineup. A couple more quality bench players might be enough. Why not save all that cap space and use it on that instead(along with resigning Parsons, Bev, and maybe T-Jones when their deals are up)?


    Wait a sec. How will the Rockets keep Parsons after getting Melo? Forget the cap situation for a second. Where would they fit in the lineup? Both of them play the 3.
     
  4. Remlap

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    The REAL Answer to "Carmelo Anyone"?

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  5. Nook

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    First, the Bulls will not have the cap space to sign Melo without moving Gibson and Dunleavy AND take back $0 in salaries in the trade. That also precludes the Bulls from bringing Mrotic over AND requires Boozer be released..... ohh and then that means they have to trade their 2014 draft picks, and the Bobcats draft pick.

    The other option? The Bulls deal Noah and others for Anthony.... but why would Anthony want to go to the Bulls without Noah. Also, would the Bulls do that? I don't think so.

    As far the Bulls are concerned, taking back Asik and Lin really isn't stupid, because they are not concerned about the $$, and the cap hit for BOTH is only $16,000,000 and comes off the books in 2015 when all the big names will be available. Further, Amare would come off the same summer, leaving them with $40,000,000 in cap space, Rockets draft picks and a young player in Terrence Jones.
     
  6. Nook

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    #1 Love and Aldridge are unlikely. You take the first real star you can get.
    #2 You get as many real stars as you can. Also Morey has discussed the need for a third star.
    #3 You don't spend cap space on bench players, you develop them and you get players that fit needs. Spending cap space on bench players in a road to disaster.
    #4 Parsons and Anthony would play the 3/4 on the team.... both would start. That is assuming that the Rockets don't jettison Parsons in the deal for Anthony.
    #5 If Anthony is available in a S&T (which Anthony will want for more $) and he is willing to go to the Rockets, they can put together probably the most attractive package depending on how much they are willing to include (assets are Jones, Parsons, draft picks, Lin and Asik).
     
  7. BONIERO1576

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    I think what we saw last night was that our starting 5 is as good as anybodies. Scoring punch off the bench and perimeter defense are our biggest achilles heels. Instead off going all in on another scorer this team is going to be better served in the long run adding those veteran role players. Just like Miami did, when they added Battier, Allen, Birdman, those were the guys that eventually put them over the top.
     
  8. Nook

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    I would point out the SA has Duncan, Parker and Ginobili..... also those Bulls teams (Jordan/Pippen/Rodman), Lakers teams (Magic/Kareem/Worthy) and Celtics (Bird/McHale/Parrish) and Sixers teams (Dr. J/Malone/Toney) all had 3 all star players.
     
  9. Nook

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    The Heat went after role players because they already had their Big 3 and had zero cap space. You can add veteran role players by using the MLE, winning and attracting players like Battier and drafting well.

    Spending valuable capspace on veteran role bench players is a recipe for disaster.
     
  10. Phillyrocket

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    This. Get the stars and the role players come to you. Not to mention Parsons and Jones are better role players than the Heat ever had.
     
  11. Richard Djunk

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    Signing Melo (or any other superstar for that matter), the Rockets might not be able to re-sign Parsons. Dwight, Harden, and Melo equals close to $62mil of salary, and you can bet Parsons is gonna want $10-12mil.
     
  12. Voice of Aus

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    Melo is servearly underrated on this board, if you take away the long twos and make him play Moreyball then he would become one of the most Effienct shooters in the game.

    The Knicks force Melo to shoot that shot because they use him in horns playing off the high post giving him triple theat action against his man. This scheme formation forces Melo to play a slower pace and settle for those long twos.

    Melo is basically outside of lebron and KD and proberbly curry he is the best fit currently in the league
     
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    I think even SA and Dallas fit that same mold. San Antonio plays pretty cohesively between the 2.75 stars they have and Dallas also had a pretty balanced load playing around Dirk.
     
  14. aeolus13

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    Agreed. I don't think he's coming to Houston, but he would be a big add if they can get him.
     
  15. meh

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    I'm too lazy right now explain how this is incorrect. You can look up cbafaq.com(very good place to understand NBA rules in general) and Ctrl+F "cap hold" and explain why the Rockets CAN do what you're proposing. Also if you read some of the Bimathugs articles he explained this in some of them.
     
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  17. Richard Djunk

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    I'm too lazy as well, can you give me a link to a Bimathug article that explains this? So you're saying they can take on Melo and sign Parsons, after next year when he's a UFA, to an extension at $10-12mil per year?
     
  18. verysimplejason

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    Best case scenario for the Rockets...
     
  19. Htownballer38

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    We don't need Melo, imo we are perfectly fine with what we have right now. All we need is a few minor adjustments like limiting our turnovers and defensive rebounding.
     
  20. Mirri3000

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    Agree with everything but #5, as the Knicks cannot SnT Carmelo, they are over the cap. Also, there is 0 benefit for a SnT for the player.
     

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