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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Sep 27, 2004.

  1. Harrisment

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    ahh yes..... forgot all about that thread :)

    *heads over*
     
  3. isoman2kx

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    sorry if it's been asked in this thread already

    but what was the status on clemens?

    any sort of injury or just fatigue?
     
  4. thacabbage

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    Let's hope not, but we may have just got done watching Roger Clemens pitch his last ever game.
     
  5. Uprising

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    I believe it was just fatigue, mainly because the roof was open and it was pretty warm at the ball park.

    ALso, They wanted to save his energy (not use him too long tonight) so he can make the start on Sunday if needed.
     
  6. BigSexy

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    i am not all too familiar with baseball, but what happens in the case of teams with the same records at the end of the season...It is a very strong possibility for teams in both leagues. How do they determine tie-breakers?
     
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    Whoo, what a game!! I had the pleasure of BEING there to see The Rocket pitch for the second time in 10 days! It was the first time I've been to MMP for a sellout. Man, that place was LOUD in the 9th inning.

    Taking Rocket out that early kind of surprised everyone there. We didn't have a chance to give him a standing O.

    Great game to be at. Now I have to try and go to sleep because I have to be at work in 6 hours...
     
  8. Stack24

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    http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/n...30924&content_id=541497&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp

    Scenario #4: If three Clubs are tied for first place in a Division (or Wild Card) with an identical winning percentage at the conclusion of the championship season and the tied Clubs do not have identical records against one another in the championship season, the tie for the Division Championship (or Wild Card) shall be broken as follows:

    If the three tied Clubs have identical records against one another in the championship season, the Office of the Commissioner shall supervise a draw that results in the Clubs being designated Club "A," "B," and "C."

    If the tied Clubs do not have identical records against one another in the champoinship season, they will be designated Club "A," "B," and "C" based on their records in headto- head competition during the championship season as follows:

    If Club 1 has a better record against each of Clubs 2 and 3, and Club 2 has a better record against Club 3, then Club 1 shall choose a designation as Club "A," "B," or "C," and Club 2 shall choose a designation from the remaining two designations. Club 3 shall be assigned the remaining designation.

    If Club 1 has a better record against each of Clubs 2 and 3, and Club 2 and Club 3 have the same record against each other, then Club 1 shall choose a designation as Club "A," "B," or "C," and the Office of the Commissioner shall supervise a draw between Clubs 2 and 3, the winner of which shall choose one of the remaining two designations. The remaining Club shall be assigned the remaining designation.

    If Club 1 and Club 2 have the same record against each other but each has a better record against Club 3, then the Office of the Commissioner shall supervise a draw between Clubs 1 and 2, the winner of which shall choose a designation as Club "A," "B," or "C." The Club losing the draw shall choose a designation from the remaining two designations. Club 3 shall be assigned the remaining designation.

    If Club 1 has a better record against Club 2, Club 2 has a better record against Club 3, and Club 3 has a better record against Club 1, then the three Clubs shall be ranked on the basis of overall winning percentage within that three-Club group, and the Club with the highest winning percentage from among that three-Club group shall have first choice among designations as Club "A," "B," or "C," the Club with the next highest winning percentage from among that three-Club group shall have the next choice between the two remaining designations, and the Club with the lowest winning percentage from among that three-Club group shall be assigned the remaining designation. If two or more of the Clubs within such three-Club group have the same winning percentage among the group, the Office of the Commissioner shall supervise a draw between the Clubs so tied to determine priority of selection among the designations.

    Club "A" shall play Club "B" at the ballpark of Club "A" on Monday, September 29. The following day (Tuesday, September 30), the winner of the first game shall be the home Club in a second game, against Club "C." The winner of the game between Club "C" and the Club that won the game between Club "A" and Club "B" shall be declared the Division Champion.

    Example of Scenario #4: The Chicago White Sox, Kansas City Royals and Minnesota Twins tie for the AL Central Division Championship. The Seattle Mariners have a better record than all three tied Clubs and would be the Wild Card. Based on their head-tohead records through games of September 23 (Minnesota 10-9 over CWS; CWS 8-7 over KC; KC 11-8 over Minnesota), the Royals (18-16, .529) would choose their designation as Club "A," "B," or "C," and the White Sox (17-17, .500) would choose a from the remaining two designations. Minnesota (18-20, .474) would be assigned the remaining designation.
     
  9. Puedlfor

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    one game playoffs.
     
  10. Stack24

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    That's only for a 2 team tie...it's different with 3
     
  11. Harrisment

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    I just looked at the records and realized something. Assuming the Giants slip up, if both the Astros and Cubs win out from this point on, we would still have to play them in a 1 game playoff. For some reason I had been thinking all day that the Astros controlled their destiny if only factoring in the Cubs.

    Well i guess they still do control it technically, but I thought they would win it outright if they didn't lose again.
     
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    Thanks for that Stack. Quite confusing as i am new to the game, and it is much harder to get into playoffs and keep with all the series' these teams play. So if the Giants, Astros and Cubs all tie at the end of the season, who would make it to the playoffs?
     
  13. Stack24

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    If i am not mistaken the Astros have the better record agains the other 2 teams.
     
  14. Puedlfor

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    Only in the number of rounds, but they still play single elimination games.
     
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    Two of the teams would play each other on monday, and the winner would play the third team on tuesday and the winner of that second game would make the playoffs.
     
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    Wow, we're the only team in the majors to have a winning record against the Cardinals. It's impressive that we swept this last series from them.
     
  17. Uprising

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    IIRC, We swept the First and the Last series with them this season.
     
  18. Preston27

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    Wild card lead baby!
     
  19. MadMax

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    Those who don't understand the importance of the regular season in baseball as compared to the NBA won't get this analogy....

    but this is as close to Clutch City as I've seen from any team I've ever rooted for.

    this team has no business sweeping the Cards. they have no business winning 33 of their last 43 games.

    with that old rockets team, particularly in the 95 playoffs, you could throw matchups out the window. didn't matter. that's the way the astros are playing right now.

    last night, when they needed a run, they scored it. they did that twice.

    i'm so digging this run right now. so much fun.
     
  20. Stack24

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    They brought up another point though on 610 today that if the Dodgers and Frisco tie then the division leader would have to be cleared up before anything else such as the wild card.
     

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