Captured on video: Cops shoot and kill white man with hands up in Texas

Is the controlled public perception of which you comment on everyday not insidious enough for a real question as to why?

 

1. A number of the Jews on your list aren't actually Jewish.

2. Even if they were, it wouldn't matter because it would assume that all Jews had a unified cause and agreed on everything. This is absolutely not true.

 

Just FYI, bobby will ignore this post, or answer with some form of "I don't need to explain something like this to someone who wouldn't accept the truth" But he will say it in a much more 'bobby' way than that.

 

1. Name them.
2. No freakin crap. Although denying the control and its "potential" consequences is sticking your head in the sand.

Who wants a race war? Who would profit? Who can go to an apartheid state for refuge when shtf?

 

Looks like a mighty hot take you're about to drop on us Adolph.

 

You think that buzzword means anything to me? IDGAF.......
Germany experienced a wonderful economic and spiritual come-up when they got the money changers out of power. oh no he didn't

Make no quarrel, IDC how many people standing in the way of freedom and fraternity have to die, be deported, or in some looney world get reparations for their misdeeds.

 

Don't agree with the majority of you guys anti-cop fluff, but must admit that the video of this particular shooting looks damning. Watched it last night at work with peers and everyone's reaction was quite the same as mine.

 

Wow, so, you're an admitted neo-reactionary white nationalist and nazi sympathizer then, eh?

Um...good luck with that wood, but I don't think it is going to go too well for you.

Edit: Also, just want to say, you gotta love our American form of fascism. See, fascists always have this mythology of a previous golden age they would like to return the nation to by violently enforced racial purity -- but in our country, instead of pre-christian Germany or Imperial Rome, that golden age they romanticize is the mythos of the american revolution, the fight for independance, and the early american constitutionalism. As a result you have people like jcee15 here advocating tyranical oppression of certain groups in the name of "freedom and fraternity". Wow. Reminds me of those neo-nazi sympathizing tea partiers in Nevada who killed the cops and draped the Gadsden Don't Tread on me Flag on one and a Nazi flag on the other.

Pure cognitive dissonance.

 

Yeah, this one looks inexcusable, pretty much the only thing that could change that would be if he had a weapon in the one hand that was obscured by the pole.....but not really because he wasn't advancing and his hands were in the air for a second or two before the shots happened.

This one kind of looks like murder.

 

Wow so.... I can't be pro-white(the only type of racist) and not believe the official holocaust story without being vilified?????? Eh, sounds about right.
I am quacking like a duck homeboy.
Look up the Holodomor and see how many innocent European Christians were killed by the Jewish Bolsheviks.

 

I'm not pro-Bolshevik either, fascist duck. Unlike you, I am not going to offer sympathies with any mass murderers.

And you are welcome to be pro-white -- what I take umbrage with is you being anti-other races and defending the Nazis.

I honestly think Clutch and the mods should ban you and anyone else supporting anti-semitism and/or defending the genocidal extermination of any people.

Americans don't and should not tolerate people of your mindset. It is anathema to the ideals this nation was founded on, and if you ever get enough idiots together who are willing to start trying to force this mindset on others, I am confident you will all end up disposed of by the people of this nation who despise the totalitarianism in the name of "freedom" that your kind espouses.

 

I just compared believing or feeling something with fact. Sandra Bland believed she was mistreated. 25% of Americans believe that the sun orbits the earth. Neither of those beliefs were factually correct. That is why a survey asking people what they believe about an issue does not necessarily reflect the underlying facts of the issue. I very much doubt that 60% of black Americans have actually been mistreated by the police. I think it is more likely that 60% of black Americans feel like they have been mistreated by the police, but I don't think the survey was sufficient to prove even that to any degree of certainty.

 

Off the top of my head, Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish. He was falsely labeled as Jewish by some hate website based in the theory that his great great great grandmother was Jewish, but this turned out not to be true. Even if someone in his family was Jewish, it's been more than 200 years. I won't bother going through the rest of the list.

 

The sun orbiting the earth is empirical, the treatment of a human being is subjective.

In other words, your analogy shows you don't know what an anology is.

 

Let's start with Rupert Murdoch. He isn't Jewish.

We can also point out that David Westin isn't the President of ABC news

Michael Ian Grade was born of a gentile mother, but did grow up with a Jewish family so may have converted.

Mark Thompson isn't Jewish while he did marry a Jewish wife.

Hank Paulson isn't Jewish.

Tim Geithner isn't Jewish.

Here's a funny article about people thinking that he is.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2009/06/tim-geithner-not-a-jew/18248/

The list goes on, but that's enough for a start.

Look, your list is so inaccurate that you might want to check where you got it from, and block them as a source if you hope to deal in actual facts and truth.

 

And yet it still doesn't matter in the minds of some.....that being his point. Something that is empirically false can still be belied. It's even worse when you are talking about things that are subjective.

To some people McDonald's being out of chicken nuggets is a human rights violation....

 

I think there can be objective standards of what constitutes mistreatment. What is subjective is people's feelz that they have been mistreated, which I have stated repeatedly is what the survey at best could have measured.
To recap:
They made a survey about the feelz.

Proponents claimed that the survey revealed a problem with policing (ie the survey was proof of mistreatment).

I said the survey about the feelz cannot prove mistreatment, can only prove something about feelz.

The counter argument was that because so many had the feelz, the underlying fact of mistreatment must be true.

I posted that one in four Americans believe the sun orbits the earth, so just because people feel or believe something in large numbers, don't make it so.
CometsWin said science is different than anecdotal experiences (as though somehow having feelz about personal experiences is more accurate than having feelz about observable scientific fact).

I said yes, science is different, but having the feelz about a fact doesn't make the fact true, whether the fact is planetary motion, or the mistreatment of a human by the police - providing relevant examples of each. I then interjected my opinion that the negutive feelz about the police far outpaces actual police misconduct (this is MY feelz, also without supporting evidence and based on MY anecdotes)

You came up with some non-sequitur and attempted to use it to claim victory, in the process displaying that you did not understand the argument

fin

 

100% Truth glad some people on here have sense..

These cops have a license to kill.

 

I agree as well.

I think we need to start to have a conversation in this country on whether we want to have police in our communities at all anymore. Perhaps we as a society have outgrown the concept of policing.

There are other methods by which we can protect ourselves and our communities from crime, and, considering the behavior of police, the state of the entire criminal justice and prison system, and the cost on society for paying for all of this -- I think we could do a lot better at this point.

My solution:
1) decriminalize victim-less crime. This frees 52% of people in jail right now (63% if you free people imprisoned for immigration violations), and radically decreases the amount of interactions between law enforcement and citizens.

2) take some of the money currently going to policing and prisons, and spend it on funding local government, so that they no longer have to fund themselves by over policing citizens Definitely put an end to quotas (which also further decreases the amount of interactions between law enforcement and citizens).

3) Communities and neighborhoods could pay volunteers to train in policing (using funds no longer going to Police and Prisons), and then select rotating shifts of police from this pool like they do jurors. Those selected (having already been trained) would be paid for the work, and would be police only for a certain amount of time. This way people police their own communities (unlike today), but can't build up a corrupt power base or a Stanford Experiment like culture (as police do today) since their role would only be temporary.

I am sort of just spit-balling here -- but I think the most terrible idea on the table is staying with the status quo.