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Captain America movie will be called 'The First Avenger' overseas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tallanvor, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Major

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    It has nothing to do with fearing American pride - it's that it doesn't sell because other countries don't have American pride (as you'd expect). As someone else pointed out, Captain Britain or Captain China wouldn't sell here - not because people are anti-China or anti-Britain but because we just don't care. It's not something that's going to have an inherent appeal to Americans. It's no different overseas - no one cares about Captain America overseas.
     
  2. thadeus

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    Marketing is controlled by corporate interests.

    Corporate interests come from profits.

    Corporations care more about profits than they do about America.
     
  3. Kam

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    Why didn't they make Austin Powers an American?


    I didn't watch because he was British.



    Yeah baby.
     
  4. tallanvor

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    They fear that showing American pride in other countries will affect sales.
     
  5. Major

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    No - they fear that showing something that people don't have any connection to will affect sales. It's not like they are changing the movie itself - the guy is still decked out in the stars & stripes. They just recognize that no one abroad cares about Captain America.
     
  6. tallanvor

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    Sounds like you agree with what you quoted me saying.
     
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  8. vlaurelio

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    yep tea partiers should evade paying taxes
     
  9. durvasa

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    Why should they market their movie as American propaganda to overseas markets? Because calling it "Captain America" in the title is exactly how that comes across -- American propaganda. Not only would it hurt sales, it would distract from the what the movie is really about -- fun, brainless, action-packed, comic book superhero entertainment.

    Turning this into a political thing is silly.
     
  10. Mathloom

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    What's silly is calling it pride. What's even sillier is calling the name change accomodation of anti-American sentiment.

    Essentially, tallanvor does not want to change the root cause of anti-American sentiment, wants to flaunt what he believes to be American pride overseas, and wants it to be as profitable as doing so at home.
     
  11. Deckard

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    Who cares? They're trying to make money overseas. You know, that thing we're supposed to be so good at, capitalism. Anyone ever heard of it?
     
  12. Dairy Ashford

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    Hollywood movies are the greatest goods America has ever produced.

    • Decisive trade advantage.
    • No government subsidies.
    • No periodic, mass fatalities.
    • No falsified medical or scientific research.
    • No slave labor for the first few centuries of its existence.

    And more international goodwill than generated by every dollar of foreign aid ever spent.
     
  13. Shroopy2

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    You must have looked in IMDB that much and noticed plenty movies having different international titles for the same movie. Sometimes done so they don't offend.

    I'm as tired as anybody for apologizing for my masculinity and for staunchly appreciating the culture I live in. EVERYONE in the UNIVERSE is under scrutiny for that, God and the Ghosts of Einstein and Isaac Newton themselves, their DNA sequence isnt any better than mine. F**K 'em for trying to strip away my identity to fit their ideologies.

    But, this a bit of a reach.

    You should maybe be equally upset for American pandering to its OWN sensitivities. Using the GI Joe example again, might be familiar with the phrase in the theme "Its purpose: To defend human freedom against Cobra, a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world." After 9-11, they completely took out the word "terrorist" off the toy packaging cuz they didnt want to offend anyone...

    Businesses are always concerned about trivialities like that. Screw businesses too. But I think this change is mostly benign.
     
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    I think it's largely because Captai America is just a ****ty movie name. The only reaso nthey're probably uing that here is to draw in fans of the comic book. I would imagine most people in other countries are unaware of what Captain America is, so there's no reason to give the movie a ****ty name if it's not going to draw in a crowd.
     
  15. Deckard

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    Exactly. Let one industry in the States that still works fairly well do its thing unimpared.
     
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    OP simply wants to justify his stealing
     
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    Sorry to be a nitpicker but there are a lot of government subsidies and tax breaks granted to the film industry.
     
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    They don't have many federal government subsidies (the only one that I can think of is free use of military equipment), but Hollywood movies are heavily subsidized. And if a politician threatens to cut these subsidies they will have some really creative protests, like having a bunch of awful actors do really bad plays inside the Texas State Capitol.
     
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    I'm a big supporter of foreign aid, just to be clear, but the sentiment that the American film industry has generated more goodwill towards the United States than foreign aid has a lot of merit, in my opinion. I've traveled around the world and everywhere I've gone, people love to talk about our films. They know lines from our movies, in English, even if their grasp of the language is slim. They are influenced by our culture, as expressed in our films. It's pretty amazing, actually. They may hate our government and its actions from time to time, but given the chance, they flock to see our movies.
     

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