Believe, Never say never. He was the point guard his rookie year and passed a bunch of times to two best 50 ever players...
It seems to me as if Mobley, in the long run, will be the fourth best option on the team (behind Franchise, Yao, and Griffin -- not necessarily in that order). Mobley is a quality guard with a chance of making an All-Star team or two sometime during his career. If that describes our FOURTH best player, I'd say that our future is looking extremely promising! On top of that, I LOVE Mobley's attitude. He is a gym rat who never gives less than 100% - both in practice and during games. I wonder what the careers of hugely talented, but lazy NBAers (Kemp, Baker, Coleman, etc.) would be like if they had Mobley's attitude and work ethic. C'mon Believe, the Cat is a very good NBA player on a soon-to-be great NBA team. Stop your hatin'!!! Keep doing what you are doing Mobes!
Here's a thought: If players can see how they can succeed in a system, they are more apt to believe in the system. I mean, if I tried to sell you sprockets, but you don't think you need sprockets, you wouldn't buy them. Even if I told you that they were American made, buying them is patriotic, blah blah, you still wouldn't buy them, right? How is Mobley different? He sees how the motion can improve his game, as well as his teammates, so he's starting to believe in the system and in his teammates.
Mobley has earned the right to b**** at rooks about their screwups. I haven't seen anyone else work or play as hard as he does. Last season he played mucho minutes on two bad ankles just because there was noone else to take up the slack. When we lose, he get s visibly upset..when we win, he's jumping thru the roof..How can you say he's not a team player? He takes alot of shots?...well, he is the shooting guard. Sometimes he doesn't pass and jacks up a shot with a guy in his face? Who da hell else was he gonna give it to..? Rudy allowed him to play the way he did last season..that was the offense. This season it looks like RT is goin for a motion offense..If Mobley becomes a blackhole on the floor in a motion offense...then you can b****. Hell, I'll probably join you...but until we can see what offense RT is using and see how well the team adapts to it..shut da hell up newb.
Man, I love this. It's not about what he said. It's not about training camp. It's about the his past play. And no Jeff I do not know how reporters go about an interview. I understand the role of a "shooting" guard, but that does not mean to shoot every time you get the ball. Ok one question. Does anyone believe that Mobley is a well rounded player?
Tell me, who should he have passed to last year? Francis? Hurt or ailing most of the time. Moochie? He did actually. Maurice? Out Rice? Out Morris? So he can build his own house of bricks right in front of us? Cato? Thats funny. Langhi? So he can do his best Morris imression? KT? He did that too. Collier? Umm...yeah Griffin? somtimes Out team was pathetic last year. Mobley barely had anyone to pass to. I'm willing to bet money that this year Mobley will make Boki, Ming, Maurice, Griffin and Rice much better players.
Let's cut and paste this entire thread in "Cutino Issue"... Well Believe, he obviously can play offense real well he was almost on an all star pace in that category. His defense is not that bad. Oh, and he used to play the point as a rookie, handling the ball setting up plays and passing and scoring. Sounds pretty well rounded to me. Maybe it is the situation and what is being asked of him night in and night out. Your center last year didn't score. Your small forward position didn't score. The power forward scored, but not that much (KT). Your running mate at guard scored, but he missed like 26 games and was hurt for a lot of others. Point is, maybe he has the help now to fit into the flow - the motion. Give these guys a chance...
Um, do you think I am talking just about last year? He may have tried to play the point and pass as a rookie, but he was just that, a rookie... He had to. He can't play the point. He can't even pass the ball. Maybe it's not that he won't, but that he can't. He couldn't even make a decent pass to Francis at the dunk contest. Why because he doesn't practice passing. He is too busy jacking up shots.
Believe, I'll cast my vote for Mobley being a well-rounded player. I'll be the first to admit that he does make the occassional bone-headed play, but I don't think he's alone on this team in that regard. I also think his reputation for making stupid plays far outweighs the reality of that situation. Finally, I think that he makes fewer mistakes than he used to and, as he matures as a player, he will make fewer still. I'm really not sure how that is any different than any other typical "young player" compared to any other typical NBA veteran.
Cat has improved his #'s each season which tells me he is dedicated to getting better. Rather than focusing on one bad season, why don't you focus on how he intends on improving his game this coming season. If you like history, he has proven he is capable of consistently getting better. What more can you ask? * He is extremely impressive (as a low 2nd rounder). * He constantly improves. * Last season was a disaster by all accounts - he did what he could. * They are implementing systems to improve past problem areas. * Cat is buying into the new system. * He is a shooting guard. Thats his job. * He wants to win and plays with heart. What else do you want from the guy. Jeez.
So now you are basing your opinion on Cuttino from a couple of years ago? You don't think he has matured as player in the last few years at all?
Cuttino Mobley: Named to the 1998-99 Schick All-Rookie Second Team after averaging 9.9 points and 2.5 assists in 49 games, making 37 starts at point guard Finished second in voting to Phoenix's Rodney Rogers for the 1999-2000 NBA Sixth Man Award in his second year Led all NBA reserves in scoring with a 15.8 points per game average during the 1999-2000 season, holding the distinction of being the only reserve to rank second on his team in scoring Stands with Calvin Murphy as the only Rockets reserves to ever average 15 points in a season Finished his second NBA season ranked 17th in the NBA with a free throw percentage of .847 Not to mention the consistent and very well rounded numbers he puts up, even on a decimated 28 win team in the hardest conference in the NBA. How about night in night out on a decimated team facing: Paul Pierce, Jamal Mashburn, Tracy Mc Grady, Kerry Kittles, Ray Allen, Vince carter, Richard Hamilton, Michael Jordon, Allen Iverson, Eddie Jones, Reggie Miller, Bonzi Wells, Steve Smith, Predrag Stojakovic, Wally Szczerbiak, Kobe Bryant, Doug Christie, Michael Dickerson, Michael Finley, Bobby Jackson, Joe Jackson, Michael Redd, Jason Richardson, Jalen Rose, Latrell Sprewell, Allan Houston, Jerry Stackhouse, and Jason Terry among others. I think Cat did (and does) pretty damn well!
Believe is running away from his earlier interpretation of Mobley's quotes. No one joined him, so now he is trying to rally other Mobley hatas by saying, "You have to read between the lines, based on past Mobley hating." btw: you hata, Mobley was a bench player his 2nd yr, and his job was most definitely to be instant offense ala Vinnie Johnson and Cedric Toney. Even some of the most vocal Mobley hatas have said that they would be fine moving Mobley back to is 2nd yr role, if shooting is all he can do. The only reason Mobley became a starter the 3rd year was because Walt Williams failed to keep is starting job. So really, all you are b****ing about is 1 1/2 yrs of being a starter, and we can safely eliminate the first 1/2 yr, because the Rox went an an impressive playoff run, and we can safely eliminate last year as a consideration, since Rudy couldn't even implement the motion elements that Kenny Thomas confirmed that he was tring to implement.
Why does an obvious troll thread get 33 replies? Fellow posters are sadly misallocating their energies
He doesn't. He did average 2.5 assists per game last season with a high of 7 against the Lakers. No, but how many well rounded players are there in the NBA? Three? Maybe four when Grant Hill is healthy? Every player in the league can improve in at least one area if not more. Mobley could and has worked on his shot selection as well as his defense. He could still improve in these areas as well as his passing, but I am very satisfied with his progress.
You are right Pip, i should quit while I am behind. Damn, if we were having this "discussion" in a bar, I would have been jumped by now. Still though, this is funny. You are all right. Everything you said. I can't wait for the season to start. Mobley for president!!!!
Because it is a fresh discussion(not for long though!) rather than the exhausted Trade KT/Mo-T/Collier/T-Mo/Cato threads.
So according to you Cat only touched the ball about 18 times a game last year. Hmmm. Something tells me that you should watch more games and listen to less of the national media.
