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Cannabis may have benefit for MS victims

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SpaceCity, Sep 10, 2004.

  1. SpaceCity

    SpaceCity Contributing Member

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    The sceptic in me says that even with good news like this, the government will still keep it illegal while oking the drug companies to make a sythetic substitute that will cost way more and probably be less effective.

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2787983

    EXETER, England - Cannabis-based treatments may have longer-term benefits for multiple sclerosis patients, scientists said today.

    The findings of a short, 15-week trial of MS patients published last year were inconclusive because although patients reported relief in muscle stiffness, rigidity and mobility, the findings could not be confirmed by physiotherapists.

    But Dr John Zajicek, of the Peninsula Medical School at the Universities of Exeter and Plymouth in southwestern England who headed the study, told a conference there seemed to be further benefits for patients who continued treatment for a year.

    "In the short term-study there was some evidence of cannabinoids alleviating symptoms of multiple sclerosis; in the longer term there is a suggestion of a more useful beneficial effect, which was not clear at the initial stage," he said.

    Cannabis contains more than 60 different cannabinoids. The most active is thought to be tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).

    The 667 patients in the original study, which was reported in The Lancet medical journal, were given a cannabis extract or capsules with a synthetic version of THC or a placebo for 15 weeks.

    About 80 percent of patients opted to continue the treatments for up to a year.

    "We have generated interesting results which suggest there may be long-term benefits," Zajicek told a news confernece at the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science.

    But he added that more research is needed to confirm the findings, which will be published later this year.

    MS, which affects about one million people worldwide, is a disease in which immune system cells destroy the myelin sheath that protects the nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord.

    Although cannabinoids have been used in medicine for thousands of years, until recently there has been little scientific evidence of any therapeutic values.

    Last year, the Netherlands became the world's first country to make cannabis available as a prescription drug for cancer, HIV and MS. In the United States it is used to treat weight loss in AIDS patients and nausea and vomiting in cancer sufferers.
     
  2. jiggadi

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    Oh yeah. Pot just makes you feel good. It really makes me upset that because some people associate pot with being bad they close their minds and don't wish to research it and see how it could help people. Just like this study. We need more of them. If you're sick you feel like crap or you have any kind of disability wouldn’t you want your doctor to be looking for ways to make you feel better? What happens when you smoke? You laugh at the dumbest things then you eventually get hungry and thirsty. How come it is illegal and constantly looked down upon? What happens when you drink alcohol? You loose your balance you may get sick to your stomach and vomit. Or you just pass out from too much and become dead to the world. Sure it’s a painkiller but look at the bad effects it has on you. Yet you can’t watch t.v. for 30 minutes without seeing a alcohol commercial showing all these beautiful people with big smiles having a great time.
    Smoke on!
     
  3. SpaceCity

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    Outlawing the cannibis plant is like saying God is wrong.

    How can any religious person agree with this stance?

    Are there any other naturally occuring plants that have been outlawed? Poppies, maybe. Isn't that the state flower of California? There are poisonous plants that actually kill people and animals that are not outlawed. Go figure.

    God provided a natural means to alleviate pain, induce appetite, relax your nerves and muscles, and open your mind to creative thought.

    Throughout history, this little plant has benefitted mankind in many ways. (The list of uses is quite long, just ask Andy.)

    The truth of the matter has a lot to do with the Corporate Giants that fund both sides of the government. Does the oil industry want us to have an abundant, renewable fuel source? Does the prescription drug industry want us all to have a multi-use drug that can be grown for free in most areas of this Earth? This list also goes on, just ask Andy.

    So again, how can any religious person sit there and say God is wrong and that humans know better than He?
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    More medical MJ info...


    They're Back! Two DEA Raids on California Medical mar1juana Operations in Two Weeks 9/10/04
    After a lengthy period of relative quiescence, federal raids on California medical mar1juana operations have started up again. With an August 18 raid on medical mar1juana law envelope-pusher Eddy Lepp and his Eddy's Medicinal Gardens and Multi-Denominational Church of Cannabis and Rastafari (http://www.eddysmedicinalgardens.com) and a September 3 raid on the Capitol Compassionate Care dispensary in Roseville, a Sacramento suburb, the John Ashcroft Justice Department and the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) have clearly signaled that they remain determined to wage their crusade against medical mar1juana in the state. And in a new and ominous wrinkle, the Justice Department moved Wednesday to seize the assets of the Roseville operation.

    California voters in 1996 approved Proposition 215, which legalized medical mar1juana in the state. Last year, the legislature strengthened the law. The US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has already ruled that the federal government has no right to interfere in non-commercial medical mar1juana operations in the state. The Justice Department is appealing that decision to the Supreme Court. Both dispensaries raided by the DEA recently did take money for medical mar1juana, either through donations or above-board sales, though DEA may be stretching the law to define them as anything other than nonprofits.

    In the raid on Eddy Lepp, DEA agents accompanied by members of the California Highway Patrol, the California National Guard, and the Lake County sheriff's office, seized some 30,000 plants, calling the operation "the largest, most sophisticated mar1juana garden in the world," Lepp told DRCNet with more thBan a trace of pride in his voice. Lepp, who provided medical mar1juana for hundreds of patients, faces two life sentences after being charged with federal mar1juana manufacture crimes. He is now out on personal recognizance.

    In the Capitol Compassionate Care raids, DEA agents invaded and shut down the Roseville dispensary at gunpoint, served search warrants at owner Richard Marino's home and business, and raided his rural Newcastle farm, where some 500 mar1juana plants were being grown for patients. No criminal charges have been filed yet.

    When queried by DRCNet, the DEA defended the raids and attacked the whole notion of medical mar1juana. "There is no such thing as medical mar1juana -- that's a label invented by the mar1juana lobby to further their agenda," said DEA San Francisco special agent Richard Meyer. "They want to legalize it for all purposes, but since they know there is no support for that, they came up with the idea of so-called compassionate use. The DEA supports legitimate scientific research on mar1juana, but so far the American Medical Association and the Food and Drug Administration recommend that mar1juana remain illegal because it is a dangerous drug. When these so-called medical mar1juana dispensaries are distributing mar1juana, they are violating federal law."

    When asked if the DEA didn't have anything better to do than go after dispensaries legal under state law, Meyer replied, "Our number one priority in California is methamphetamines, but that doesn't mean we give a break to cocaine dealers or mar1juana dealers. We still have a responsibility to protect the community."

    California Attorney General Bill Lockyer, whose job it is to enforce California's laws, has been quiet over the latest raids. Lockyer spokesperson Hallie Jordon told DRCNet Wednesday that while he protested the Wo/Man's Alliance for Medical mar1juana (http://www.wamm.org) raids in 2002 because he was "concerned that federal drug authorities would trample on a business that was working with local law enforcement, prosecutors, and health officials," other raids are a different story. "If local law enforcement believes someone is dispensing mar1juana illegally while pretending to be a medical mar1juana provider, then the Attorney General thinks it is local law enforcement's prerogative to protect the community," said Jordan. "His concern is when the feds come in without consulting the locals and in contradiction to what the local authorities want."

    DRCNet could not make contact with Marino, but he told the Sacramento Bee he was surprised by the raid and that he had complied with state law. "I thought I was doing everything above board," Marino said. "I still think I'm doing everything above board." Capitol Compassionate Care had recently gone through a permitting process with the City of Roseville that resulted in a license for the center to dispense medical mar1juana to qualified patients. On Wednesday, Marino's woes deepened when the US Attorney's office filed a civil complaint seeking to seize his home and business. "I'm in a state of shock right now," he told the Bee. "I had no idea this was coming."

    Lepp, too, claimed to be following state law. "We were completely in compliance with Proposition 215 and Senate Bill 420," Lepp said. Under his reading of the law, he said, SB 420 says patients are guaranteed the right to grow at least six plants. I obey the law. Every year, I send a letter to the local sheriff, the prosecutor, the county supervisors, and this year to Attorney General Lockyer, saying 'I'm Eddy Lepp, I'm located at these precise lots, and I will be growing for myself and my patients at these locations.'"

    While Lepp's interpretation of the law may be open to question, it is something of a moot point. Although state and local law enforcement officers cooperated with the DEA in the raid, no state charges have been filed.

    "That Eddy Lepp got busted comes as no surprise," said Dale Gieringer, head of the California branch of the National Organization for the Reform of mar1juana Laws (http://www.canorml.org). "He had 30,000 plants -- big plants -- and they weren't hidden. How could any law enforcement agency just ignore that? But the question is, if they thought Eddy was breaking state law, why didn't Lake County officials go in and bust him themselves?" he told DRCNet. "It would have been a state case, and they would have had to contend with a Prop. 215 defense and a lot of angry patients, that's why," he ventured.

    Capitol Compassionate Care was also high-profile, with lots of local media coverage and a controversy with neighbors over his rural garden, said Gieringer. The problem is not publicity, however, he argued, but the unsettled state of the law. "This is above all an indication of a basic lack of a legal framework for mar1juana at this moment," he said. "We are in a state of anarchy because the federal government refuses to treat this as a legal enterprise and goes out on raids on a whim."

    "The people they've recently targeted have been in the spotlight a lot because of their involvement in medical mar1juana distribution," agreed Stacey Swimme, field director for Americans for Safe Access (http://www.safeaccessnow.org), the California-based medical mar1juana emergency response network. "They're making an example of these people, and that's what the DEA is all about: intimidation and fear," she told DRCNet. "They wanted to flex their muscles again, but they're definitely not doing it in Oakland or San Francisco."

    "It's certainly disturbing that the DEA has again decided to come charging into California instead of letting the state handle its own affairs under state law," said Bruce Mirken, communications director for the mar1juana Policy Project (http://www.mpp.org). "I think they are consciously sending a signal that they are still around, but it is no accident that they have raided people in out of the way places instead of, say, Oakland or San Francisco, where there are a large number of dispensaries operating openly," he told DRCNet. "If the DEA came in there, there would be riots. They want to avoid places where it will stir angry public opposition."

    The raid on Eddy's Medicinal Gardens was all too typical, Lepp said, with the DEA and local law enforcement trashing and stealing property. "They seized two brand new pairs of clippers, which were obviously instrumental in my being a drug kingpin," Lepp snorted. "They took my hairbrush, they stole pictures off my wall, they even stole some of my Viagra. It is stupefying. They also took a chainsaw and used it to tear up my water lines, so now I can't plant anything. That was a $35,000 system, and they destroyed it. This was a vicious, malicious attempt to destroy me, a surgical strike designed to wipe me out. They took all the computers, all the financial records, all the bank books. They canceled business orders, they deleted my business email accounts. This was horrendous."

    The DEA's Meyer said he had heard of no such thing, and invited Lepp to file complaints with the courts and the DEA's internal affairs division. "We take this seriously," he said.

    Lepp is no stranger to run-ins with the law over medical mar1juana. In 1997, he became the first person arrested, tried, and acquitted under Prop. 215. He was also the first to be raided in the series of raids centered on the WAMM raids in 2002. No charges were filed in that raid, and Lepp has filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the DEA and the Justice Department over the raid. "I am pursuing a civil action against the DEA over a raid two years ago, and I had a court date five days after the raid. But I couldn't prosecute my case because the DEA came and took all my files, all my evidence, just before my court date."

    While his operation was huge, it was nonprofit, Lepp maintained. "Patients make free will donations to the ministry to cover the cost of maintenance, fertilizer, and above all, security," Lepp said. When asked if he was making a profit, Lepp replied, "Oh, God, no! I've lost money the last four years. Each year we helped more and more patients, and we hope we can break even some day. The main thing is to help the patients. It's been eight years and the state has done nothing. It still allows the federal government to come in here and arrest citizens obeying state law."

    ASA has been leading the way in fighting back, said Swimme. "For both raids, we organized emergency response. We are set up to show up at the federal buildings, either across the state, or in the nearest affected communities, and we did that at the federal buildings in San Francisco and Sacramento." Those demonstrations will continue on a weekly basis, she said. "We want to make sure people know that the federal government is going against state law and taking away people's access to their medicine. It is the patients who are really the victims here. Richard Meyer and the DEA are intentionally targeting people they know are providing medicine to critically ill people who are in their final days or living lives filled with pain. We are asking the citizens of California to rise up and say we are compassionate, we care about our sick and dying, and we won't allow this federal brutalizing of our patients and providers."

    As for Eddy Lepp, he is basking in support from the medical mar1juana community. "We're getting real good support from everyone. We are planning a fundraiser, and in the meantime, people are coming up from as far away as San Diego and Los Angeles bringing us seeds and plants and money." Lepp's patients are upset that our crops were taken, he said. "But they're not mad at us. They understand they lost their money and their medicine because of the DEA."

    Faced with two life sentences, Lepp remains intransigent. "I ain't taking no ****ing deal," he said. "They can either put me in prison for life or I can make them leave me alone."

    Lepp is seeking donations for his legal defense fund. They may be sent to: Eddy Lepp Legal Defense Fund, P.O. Box 382, Upper Lake, CA 95485.

    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/353/tworaids.shtml
     

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