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cancellation of Hall of Fame game/Poor field conditions

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by thejav, Aug 7, 2016.

  1. thejav

    thejav Member

    Feb 28, 2010
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    CANTON, Ohio -- Sunday night's Hall of Fame game between the Green Bay Packers and Indianapolis Colts has been canceled because of field conditions at Tom Benson Stadium, Hall of Fame president/executive director David Baker told ESPN's Lisa Salters.

    According to Baker, teams will remain at the stadium and the plan is now to host a "fan fest" of sorts.

    Multiple sources told ESPN.com that both the Packers and Colts were worried about player safety as crews worked feverishly to spray solvent on the area around the midfield logo. The issue stemmed from the paint used on the logo and in the end zones.

    Crews worked to spray solvent on the area around the midfield logo ahead of kickoff, but eventually the game was called because of the field conditions. Mike Wells/ESPN
    One Packers player described it as "like cement" at midfield, where workers spent more than an hour trying to make it playable.

    "The end zones are just as bad," the same player said about 90 minutes before the scheduled 8 p.m. ET kickoff.

    "The paint on the logo won't allow a cleat to penetrate it," a Colts source said. "A definite hazard to player safety."

    Colts DT Ricky Lumpkin tweeted that he was "juiced" for Sunday night's game, but "safety is number 1."


    Packers coach Mike McCarthy and Colts coach Chuck Pagano both watched as crews tried to rectify the problem. Baker later met with representatives of both teams.

    This is not the same surface used in last year's Hall of Fame game, when Steelers kicker Shaun Suisham sustained a season-ending injury.
  2. leroy

    leroy Contributing Member

    Jun 25, 2002
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    What a strange thing to have had happen. There are specialized paints for synthetic turf and I'm wondering if they somehow used the wrong thing or mixed it wrong. In all my years in the turf industry, I've never heard of something like that happening.

    Then...whoever had the bright f***ing idea to heat it up hopefully has already been fired. They heated it up enough to melt the rubber infill (recycled tire) which has a pretty high heat tolerance. So, they essentially melted a plastic (the grass is made of polyethylene) and rubber enough to make the center of the field and the end zones into a nice solid surface.

    Bunch of dumbasses.
  3. ron413

    ron413 Contributing Member

    May 29, 2002
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  4. ipaman

    ipaman Contributing Member

    Nov 23, 2002
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    NFL is in a constant PR nightmare that they somehow continue to survive from. It's mind boggling they continue to thrive as the bad PR continues year after year.
  5. HardenTime

    HardenTime Member

    Jul 16, 2016
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    colts vs. vikings superbowl 51.. its a lock
  6. TheresTheDagger

    May 20, 2010
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    There will be a refund policy. Great.

    Will they refund the lodging, gas, food, plane tickets, cab rides and vacation time the fans spent to get there?

    What a colossal blunder by the NFL. For a multi-billion dollar league, you'd think they'd hire competent people to do this type of thing. Its not like it hasn't been done before thousands of times all over the world or anything...

    And the thing about player safety...I sorta get it...until you take into account all the games they've played on slippery surfaces due to weather over the past many years. Are they gonna start considering canceling games over that too in the future?

    What a mess.
  7. leroy

    leroy Contributing Member

    Jun 25, 2002
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    What happened with this field is a lot different than playing in the rain. Imagine playing on a field that has a concrete parking lot in the middle of it. It was likely like that.
  8. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Contributing Member

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    I agree. I think the problem was that they have some kind of partnership where the grounds crew for that stadium was in charge of the field. I would assume the NFL would have rather done it but it might be a contract thing. I believe the stadium officials also imported an old turf from the Superdome and probably didn't understand how it worked. The NFL did the best job they could under what was a bad contractual agreement with the stadium.

    I disagree adamantly here. Those rubber balls in the turn are what make is spongey so it has some bounce. Sure, a wet field can lead to slipping and maybe some torn muscles but that is a lot different from getting thrown down onto what basically became concrete. The league also has been trending more towards doing what they can to make the game safer for players and concussions would be a bigger risk if the back of their helmet came down on that part of the turf. New Orleans had horrible turf for years but they finally got that taken care of 5-6 years ago. There are also way more sophisticated drainage systems.

    The NFL and Players Association also agreed last month to have reps meet at least twice a year to monitor field conditions. In addition, the NFLPA’s designated field consultant “will be granted equal access to all NFL playing fields and field test results,” according to the agreement, which was signed last week. “For the avoidance of doubt, this access includes non-traditional venues (e.g., London, Mexico City, Hall of Fame Game).”

    It's also possible that they have been pushing teams with field problems to use modern artificial turf. Artificial grass used to just be in doom stadiums but it is now in use at the following NFL cities:

    -East Rutherford, New Jersey
    -Houston (Retractable Roof)
    -Indianapolis (Retractable Roof)
    -Santa Clara (Hybrid Grass-Synthetic)
    -Philadelphia (Hybrid Grass-Synthetic)
    -Green Bay (Hybrid Grass-Synthetic)

    It's also worth mentioning that the NFL players anonymously rank the best and worst stadiums in the NFL. In the worst in 2002 were, Philadelphia, NY Giants/Jets, Cincinnati, Minnesota, New Orleans. All 5 of those have replaced their fields with some kind of synthetic or better quality field.
    #8 Brando2101, Aug 8, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2016
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine
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    May 15, 2000
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    Another embarrassment for Goodell.
  10. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Jan 27, 2009
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    Hope this means the end of the Hall of Fame game. There is no reason for it to exist, along with another two preseason games. Colleges don't have preseason games and no one really complains, why should the NFL?

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