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Cancel Culture gone to far? : Columbus, Ohio residents want the city renamed

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  1. tinman

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    "Gotham's time has come. Like Constantinople or Rome before it the city has become a breeding ground for suffering and injustice. It is beyond saving and must be allowed to die. This is the most important function of the League of Shadows. It is one we've performed for centuries. Gotham... must be destroyed."

    Bruce Wayne never believed in the League of Shadows even if Gotham was corrupt as hell
     
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    "Your Complete Guide To Canceling Every Team In Major League Baseball":

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/2...anceling-every-team-in-major-league-baseball/

    Arizona Diamondbacks: The Diamondbacks are named after the Western diamondback rattlesnake. Many Christians and Jews are “triggered” by this reptile, given the role of the serpent in Genesis 2. Consider also the 7,000 Americans every year who receive venomous bites from such creatures.

    Atlanta Braves: Many American Indians don’t appreciate their heritage being exploited for a mascot. This one also originates from a nickname of 1912 owner James Gaffney, called one of the “braves” of New York City’s Tammany Hall political machine, an epicenter of wanton bribery, corruption, and patronage.

    Baltimore Orioles: It may seem benign to name a franchise mascot after a bird, but the species acquired its name from its color’s resemblance to the coat of arms of Cecil Calvert, 2nd baron Baltimore, the first proprietor of Maryland. In other words, the team honors a dead white male and a noble!

    Boston Red Sox: How can socks be offensive, you ask? Well, did you know the team stole its name from a “colored” team that played in Norfolk, Virginia in the 1880s? Cultural appropriation.

    Chicago White Sox: Their socks are white! Is the obvious connection to white privilege and oppression not enough? And don’t even suggest changing it to Black Sox, which has historically negative associations with the 1919 team that threw the World Series.

    Chicago Cubs: This name originates from the large number of young players on the team in the early 1900s. That’s ageism. Plus, it’s offensive to bears who have lost their habitats.

    Cincinnati Reds: This name also began as a descriptor of players’s socks color. It’s also reminiscent of communism, which could be either appropriation or triggering (and perhaps in our intersectional world, both).

    Cleveland Indians: If the Redskins and the Braves have to go, so do these guys. Duh.

    Colorado Rockies: These guys are named after the continent’s greatest mountain range, derived from a Cree word. Chalk another infraction up to cultural appropriation.

    Detroit Tigers: They’re derived from Michigan’s oldest military unit, which fought not only in the Civil War but the Spanish-American War, a brutal, imperialist venture. Also, hasn’t “Tiger King” made us all a little more sensitive about the mistreatment of big cats?

    Houston Astros: Honoring our nation’s amazing space program seems all well and good — until you remember the movie “Hidden Figures,” which exposed the history of racism at NASA. Fans of The Jetsons’s dog are also incensed.

    Kansas City Royals: This midwestern city is “the nation’s leading stocker and feeder market,” and nationally known for its American Royal Livestock and Horse Show. Yet livestock flatulence contributes to global warming, and according to PETA, horseback riding is exploitative.

    Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim: A religiously themed name discriminates against non-believers. And have you read what angels did to Sodom and Gomorrah and ancient Egypt?

    Los Angeles Dodgers: This name references people who dodged trolley cars in Brooklyn, from which the team originally hailed. It’s derisive towards pedestrians. Also, dodgeball is an aggressive game that encourages bullying.

    Miami Marlins: Naming a team after an endangered species reeks of animal cruelty. And did you know there’s a firearms company with the same name? Sounds like a pro-gun conspiracy…

    Milwaukee Brewers: Memorializing the city’s prolific beer industry is insensitive to anyone struggling with alcoholism or who knows someone with an alcohol problem. Also, it’s prejudicial — there’s no team named the Vintners or Distillers.

    Minnesota Twins: Sure, Minneapolis and St. Paul are the “twin cities,” but according to Miley Cyrus, climate change demands we stop having children, let alone two.

    New York Mets: Short for Metropolitans, this name implicitly endorses urbanization, pollution, and global warming.

    New York Yankees: The most storied franchise, their name evokes the exploitative Yanqui imperialism and capitalism that ravaged Latin America and perpetuated banana republics.

    Oakland Athletics: It’s amazing that in 2020 we could have a mascot so explicitly prejudicial against non-athletic people. The dreams of countless plump children have been shattered by this moniker.

    Philadelphia Phillies: If the infamous jail at the old Veteran’s Stadium and the terrible antics of “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” have taught us anything, it’s that Philadelphians are jerks. The only baseball stadium where I’ve been physically threatened is Philly’s. True story.

    Pittsburgh Pirates: Pirates were notoriously violent thieves and rapists, including against enslaved blacks. Henry Morgan (of Captain Morgan Rum notoriety) killed and plundered across the West Indies. Furthermore, the obscene number of “Pirates of the Caribbean” movies is a crime in its own right.

    San Diego Padres: This team name is both preferential towards and derisive of Catholic priests. Naming a team after clergymen is patronizing and demeaning. And let’s not forget the California woke mob’s animus towards missionary friars.

    San Francisco Giants: Gigantism is a serious condition typically caused by an adenoma, and not to be taken lightly. This name is also triggering for short people.

    Seattle Mariners: Sailors are notorious for their foul mouths and bad behavior, especially during port calls.

    St. Louis Cardinals: Recently I saw a cardinal in a tree and asked his opinion of the nickname. He flew away. Interpret that as you will. This name is also biased in favor of Catholics.

    Tampa Bay Rays: This mascot references another endangered animal. How many rays must die before we see the inhumanity of this?!? Also, it’s insensitive to glorify the creature that killed Steve Irwin.

    Texas Rangers: Attiah covered this one, but we should also bear in mind that the Rangers are a police force, and thus, should be defunded. Chuck Norris can also be quite triggering.

    Toronto Blue Jays: The bluejay is one of the most aggressive and jerkiest birds. This mascot implicitly endorses toxic masculinity.

    Washington Nationals: How dare a single team claim to represent the entire nation — talk about power structures! Also, the city is still named after two white slave owners.​
     
  3. sirbaihu

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    Next up: District of Columbia. Whee! This can go for years.
     
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    The Sierra Club has denounced founder John Muir:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/clim...rra-club-faces-its-white-supremacist-history/

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    No one is more important to the history of environmental conservation than John Muir — the “wilderness prophet,” “patron saint of the American wilderness” and “father of the national parks” who founded the nation’s oldest conservation organization, the Sierra Club. But on Wednesday, citing the current racial reckoning, the group announced it will end its blind reverence to a figure who was also racist.

    As Confederate statues fall across the country, Sierra Club Executive Director Michael Brune said in an early morning post on the group’s website, “it’s time to take down some of our own monuments, starting with some truth-telling about the Sierra Club’s early history.” Muir, who fought to preserve Yosemite Valley and Sequoia National Forest, once referred to African Americans as lazy “Sambos,” a racist pejorative that many black people consider to be even more offensive than the n-word.

    While recounting a legendary walk from the Midwest to the Gulf of Mexico, Muir described Native Americans he encountered as “dirty.”

    Muir’s friendships in the early 1900s were equally troubling, the Sierra Club said. Henry Fairfield Osborn, a close associate, led the New York Zoological Society and the board of trustees of the American Museum of Natural History and, following Muir’s death, helped establish the American Eugenics Society, which labeled nonwhite people, including Jews at the time, as inferior.

    The Sierra Club isn’t the only organization that is shaking its foundations. Leaders of predominantly white, liberal and progressive groups throughout the field of conservation say they are taking a hard look within their organizations and don’t like what they see.
    more at the link

     
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    Austin's gotta go. Damn.

    Get your statue hammers out.
     
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    cancel culture questions part of the latest Politico poll:

    https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000173-7326-d36e-abff-7ffe72dc0000

    POL18 As you may know, cancel culture is the practice of withdrawing support for (or canceling) public ܧgures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.To what extent do you approve or disapprove of people participating in cancel culture?

    Strongly approve 165 8%
    Somewhat approve 470 24%
    Somewhat disapprove 370 19%
    Strongly disapprove 507 25%
    Don’t know / No opinion 478 24%

    POL19 Based on what you know about cancel culture, do you believe it has an overall positive or overall negative impact on society?

    Very positive 115 6%
    Somewhat positive 410 21%
    Somewhat negative 415 21%
    Very negative 566 28%
    Don’t know / No opinion 484 24%

    POL20 And based on what you know about cancel culture, do you believe it has gone too far, not far enough, or neither?

    Too far 920 46%
    Not far enough 197 10%
    Neither 365 18%
    Don’t know / No opinion 509 26%

    POL21 Which of the following is closest to your opinion even if neither is exactly correct?

    There should not be social consequences for expressing unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people because free speech is protected 624 31%
    Even though free speech is protected, people should expect social consequences for expressing unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people 1053 53%
    Don’t know / No opinion 314 16%​
     
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    How does wanting to rename a city or an organization equate to public shaming or demanding someone get fired?
     
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    I feel bad for the country of Columbia
    When we rename them after Don Lemon
    @Os Trigonum
     
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    There's no country for old men, and no country named Columbia.
     
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    There are pants for old men named Columbia.
     
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    And how would you know this given your pantless sashaying?
     
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    "Some Kentucky faculty want name change for arena named after former basketball coach Adolph Rupp":

    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...d-former-basketball-coach-adolph-rupp-changed

    The faculty of the University of Kentucky's African American and Africana Studies program has asked UK president Eli Capilouto to change the name of Rupp Arena because the legendary basketball coach's name "has come to stand for racism and exclusion" and "alienates Black students, fans, and attendees."

    In a letter to Capilouto on Thursday, the African American and Africana Studies program faculty outlined additional steps it wanted Kentucky to take to eradicate racism on campus.

    In addition to removing Rupp's name from the UK basketball arena in downtown Lexington, the faculty requested that names of "enslavers, Confederate sympathizers, and other white supremacists" be removed from campus buildings as well.

    "The Adolph Rupp name has come to stand for racism and exclusion in UK athletics and alienates Black students, fans, and attendees," the AAAS faculty wrote in the letter. "The rebuilding of the arena and the convention center offer an opportunity to change the name to a far more inclusive one, such as Wildcat Arena."

    The school, in a statement, said, "The faculty and students who have expressed these concerns are deeply valued members of our community. We thank them for their continued passion and commitment to advancing equity at UK. Senior officials have been meeting and corresponding with them to address their specific concerns, which speak forcefully to the systemic and institutional racism that we must thoughtfully and urgently address as a campus."
    more at the link
     
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    When this pandemic is over, I am going to flavor town to have some Wendy’s.
     
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    I have no problems with changing a name of a city or anything else. I think that if a majority want it changed, then why not? I do think that it should be put to a vote.

    If the city of Houston had a name change it wouldn’t really change my life. I was born in Houston, I have no problem with the name, but if the majority wanted a different name, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

    North Galveston has a ring to it.
     
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    Anthony Davis One brow stadium
     
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