Cancel Culture: A Vindictive Teen Destroy a Classmate

Yeah, but you don't deck a woman and knock her out.

There were lots of other ways to handle it and that wasn't the right way.

 

Are people's records still being expunged when they turn 18?

If we cannot hold 18yr olds (adults) responsible for their criminal behaviors as minors, shouldn't the same be applied to stupid things minors do and say that aren't even criminal?

For all we know, this young lady could have had a completely different mindset a year later - we do know that she had already apologized for the incident well before Jimmy Galligan shared the video.

 

You are doing the same thing that conservative racists do....... based on her school and the town she lives in.....

I hear the same **** about black people or brown people living in a bad part of town or going to a bad school.

 

When people talk about expunging records none of this is about criminal behavior. Just using the term doesn't qualify as hate crime doesn't qualify if it's not directed at anyone in particular or as part of another crime. There is nothing illegal about her saying it, or about Galligan showing the video, or UT dismissing her.

This isn't a legal issue but a cultural issue.

 

No, I've actually posted the findings from the district where this happened. Read it. It seems a whole bunch of you want to talk about this without knowing the background of what's happened in this school.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/...cial-slurs.html#click=https://t.co/cgIsjgMKp3

 

We use individual merit. The girl was public about her support for BLM and the George Floyd protests and that wasn't a ride to save face as it was before this came out. It was her sincere desire to support these protests. That isn't the sign of a conservative racist. I've not met one racist who is fond of BLM and think they are a positive good for our country.

 

No, because her town has a long history of serious racial issues, her school has serious racial issues as documented by the school district, and she said something racist which is something she was so comfortable doing that she took a video and sent it around to her friends. You want to play games with context. Where are all your tears for all the brown and black students who dealt with years of racism and harassment at the hands of kids like her? It's a shame and it's not fair that this girl is taking the brunt of it but that's a situation that this town and this school allowed to exist and now she's paying for all their sins. Just like it wasn't fair for all these kids to be subjected to racism in their own school.

Why is her use of the BLM slogan any more a sincere expression than her use of a racial slur? You're just choosing which one you want to believe and I'm choosing to accept the full context.

 

Dude, you are being an ass. Look at my post count and how long I've posted here. You know my God dam post history. You know how often I debated in defense of black and brown minorities.

And you still judging an individual based on a group.

She blurted out the N word at 15. 2 seconds of a stupid act at 15 doesn't define a human. They are more complex than that. It's a right wing trait to have reductive binary black and white perspectives of human motivations and actions. They are the ones who make defentive claims of someone's character based off of generalizations.

She was 15 when she said the N word and she was 18 when she supported Black activism and support for the Floyd protests. You want to punish her and ruin her future opportunities in life for what ends? Vindication? Because you ain't winning any hearts and minds with your draconian sledgehammer.

 

You don't know her any more than I do. I'm judging the situation on its context. It's not an assumption nor a generalization nor a stereotype. She did something stupid as a young kid and she's paying the price for the sins of the school and the town. I don't want to punish her. It's UT's right not to have her represent the school on its cheerleading team but I don't agree with them pressuring her not to attend. As I've said many times now, it's unfair but my sympathies lie much more with the kids in that school than with her. And the last word is yours.

 

A lot of white people adopt the n word as they listen to hip hop and rap and get into the culture. I think they sound like idiots when they do it, but whatever - monkey see monkey do.

I think it's ridiculous that the word is prominent in music and culture and yet we expect kids not to repeat it???

That's why this is so stupid. She clearly was not saying it in a derogatory way.

 

We aren't debating about UT's right. We know she suffered the consequences. And I'm telling you the consequences were draconian and ****ed up.

You keep on ignoring the fact that 15 year olds can change. If you want to judge her by her singular act at 15, why can't you judge her at 18 and supporting the same type of activism for Black minorites that you do?

This isn't a zero sum world. You don't have to selectively be empathetic. You actively invested many minutes to defending her absurd consequences so this isn't merely you not caring. You want this from the amount of time you invested in defending the consequences.

 

the word n***er is not prominent in any sort of music, and she was quite comfortable not just using it, but videoing herself doing so as well

and with the way that word was flying around all over the school, it was not a good environment for any minority there

I can’t imagine being in a school and white kids are out here just saying n***er casually

 

Ya I really want @CometsWin to define what "context" means to him. Because I genuinely don't think he understands the term.

 

Okay but we are specifically talking about an individual girl. She wasn't saying it in college. She is recorded saying it once at 15 and at 18 she's a public proponent of BLM and the Floyd protests. So she isn't one of those kids saying it now.

No one approves of white kids saying it comfortably in school. They deserve class time in learning the origins of the word and the harmful nature of it. It seems like you need to beat up a strawman to have something to argue about here.