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Can you blame mcgrady for being frustrated?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hball, Dec 24, 2009.

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Can you blame mcgrady for being frustrated?

  1. yes, he has a right to be frutsated

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  2. no, theirs no reason for him to be frustrated

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  1. PeppermintCandy

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    Good posts. I found this quote from the oregonlive blog link in your post interesting. (http://blog.oregonlive.com/nba/2009..._and_links.html)

    "The quicker he comes back really makes no difference," Adelman said. "The more we can play at a decent level and work him in the better off I think we are in the long run."​

    Basically Adelman looking at long term impact rather than just short-term gains. Isn't that what you'd want a coach to do?
     
  2. aelliott

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    Basically I agree with what you are saying, but I'd qualify some of the points.

    No doubt that Brook and Ariza and all of the other Rockets have flaws in their games. Thats a given. The difference is that those guys are currently part of a rotation that is working. Likewise, there are certainly things that McGrady can contribute. The dilema comes about because there's a good possibility that McGrady could negatively effect many of the things that have contributed to the Rocket's success so far this year. Adelman has to figure out whether McGrady's potential contributions will likely outweigh his negative impact.

    I agree 100% that a star player will change the style of play and the roles. If the star player is good enough it would be an upgrade. The question with McGrady is whether or not he still has that much upside to offset the negatives. To be honest McGrady's been a low percentage jump shooter for several years now. He's certainly willing to take a shot in crunch time, but it's usually a 3 pointer launched from 23 or 24 feet. If McGrady kills the ball movement, doesn't give 100% effort on defense or doesn't get out and run on the break then I'm not sure that it's a good trade off for him getting 5 or 6 assists and launching long jumpers most the time.


    As far as critiques being applied, I think you have two factors to consider. First, a guy who is the highest paid player in the NBA is always going to be held to a higher standead than players making 1/5th to 1/7th of their money. That's just human nature, when you get the big contract expectations go up. Secondly, the other guys are currently part of a rotation that is working. It's just natural to be nervous about messing up something that is working.

    My opinion is that too many people are focusing in on what's best for this year rather than what's best for the long term. The Rockets are definitely trying to win as many games as they can, but I also believe that they also realize that they don't realistically have a chance to make a deep run in the playoffs this year. Because of that I expect any moves that they make (or don't make) to be based on what helps next year (and the years after) once Yao returns. Yes, that means that I do think that the Rockets believe that Yao will be back at full strength next year. Furthermore, I also don't believe that the Rockets management thinks that McGrady is part of their long term plans.
     
  3. somenobody

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    I agree most of the part. But I don't believe Yao and TMac combination can win a championship. I highly doubt TMac's altitude. But I think you are absolutely right about Chris Bosh. We don't need him. We should try our best to keep Scola and find a guard like Dwyane Wade. Let's see what Morey can bring us next year.

     
  4. BBstanley

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    i think he has a right to be frustrated,his last game against clippers is really good,10 points and 3 assists in just 7 and a half minutes of playing time,but yet he is still getting 7 and a half minute time after he had prove himself,and recently,ariza had been shooting really poorly

    and i think adelman should have let t-mac and replace ariza since he is shooting poorly that night,but yet let ariza continue his poor shots throughout the game anyway
     
  5. Possum

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    poor TMac. :rolleyes: He isnt getting the superstar treatment anymore because he isnt a superstar anymore. :p These TMac lovers need to get over it. :mad:
     
  6. Cohete Rojo

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    The fallout from going to Darfur continues.
     
  7. Rockets_Truth

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    Im a Rockets fan, and have been for almost 20 years. If T-mac can help the team Im all for it. I dont see how a player can get into a rythym just playing a measley 7-8 mintues a game.

    Unlike a bunch of grumpy T-mac haters on here, Im rooting for T-mac to do good so he can help the team. Just give the guy more minutes and lets see what he can do. If he doesnt got it then fine trade the guy or release him I dont really care.

    Dadakota ... 60,000 posts really? Need to find a new hobby seriously bro...

    Go Rockets! :cool:
     
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  8. OvenproofBadger

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    The grammar is clearly incorrect, saying there's no reason is correct - short for there is. Theirs no reason is wrong
     
  9. fallenphoenix

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    *head explodes*

    :cool:
     
  10. RedRedemption

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    I just want to say you got me voting the wrong poll option...

    Yes in this type of question means that you do blame him.
    No means that you don't blame him.

    You got the two mixed up, therefore I voted for the wrong poll option. :p
     
  11. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    LOL I think you guys have already bashed OP's grammer sufficiently by now, no?
     
  12. larsv8

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    Dwyane Wade is not available, and no guard like Dwyane Wade is available. Chris Bosh is, or soon to be, available. To not go after him would be a terrible move by the organization. Especially considering the rising costs of our "cheap players"
     
  13. chenjy9

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    I rather go for Joe Johnson than Chris Bosh. I am comfortable with our Scolandry combo and both Hayes and Andersen are more than enough to alleviate Yao of some minutes.
     
  14. Chiron

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    After reading this thread I'm getting SF3 flash backs.... (weird...Tracy wears #3 too...inside joke by management?)
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Good call, I was done with Francis too, he played with heart but was dumber than a box of hammers on the basketball court.

    Tmac is opposite, he is a smart player, who is more interested in gaining fans than winning basketball games.

    Neither of them is strong enough to lead a team in the playoffs.......

    DD
     
  16. Rocketsmith

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    Great post Hball! I've kept us with this whole scenario and I'm frustrated. It looks like the Rockets are not being upfront with him. I have one question that might clear some things up. Does McGrady only practice 8 minutes? If the answer is no, then we all should see why he would be frustrated. Tracy did say that he goes much harder in practice.
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Tracy worked HARD this offseason.

    Too bad that Landry, Brooks, Scola and the rest of the Rockets work hard.

    EVERY

    Offseason.

    They just don't advertise it on a personal website and charge their suckers...errr....fans for the content.

    DD
     
  18. Hball

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    So tracy's been a 7 time allstar by not working hard?

    And seriously how would you even know what any of the guys do in the offseason?
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Tracy is a was.....

    We are dealing in the now.

    DD
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    We are dealing in the will be. This is about setting ourselves up for the future.
     

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