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Can you blame mcgrady for being frustrated?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hball, Dec 24, 2009.

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Can you blame mcgrady for being frustrated?

  1. yes, he has a right to be frutsated

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  2. no, theirs no reason for him to be frustrated

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  1. Carl Herrera

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    Didn't this same thread come up in a Orlando Magic message board in 03/04?
     
  2. Zboy

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    He needs to find a doctor that will perform a macro frustration surgery.
     
  3. Aznoob

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    Haha, I see my mistake.

    My fault for trying to puff myself up. :)
     
  4. Hball

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    In time he should become more familiar with what rockets are doing defensively such as rotations and where his help is coming from.
     
  5. J-Wood

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    Thats easier said than done, and if you were Tracy, knowing that you had way more to contribute then you would want to play as well. In my opinion trading this man right now would be flat out STUPID.

    Why? because there is nobody out there that you can aquire for just the remainder of the season and still keep yourself in the 2010 free agency running that would be worth trading him for. Also with that being said if we cant get Dwayne Wade, or Carmello then there is really not one other player out there with Tracy's potential when he is "healthy".

    My thing is if the man was truly hurt and now he is recovered, give the man a chance to show what he can do becasue at this point you have nothing to loose. Ariza is NOT a true SG, he is a SF. He is not a guy that you want shooting the ball off of the dribble becasue thats not his game. He is a set shooter like Battier and he needs to be fed the ball. If Ariza takes you off of the dribble he needs to go strong to the basket, NOT SHOOT.

    Everyone keeps talking about Chris Bosh but he is not the answer to what this team needs, we are straight at the PF position with an emerging All Star in Carl Landry. This team is now lacking a SG, which is where Tracy comes in and also a big man which we know that he will be back next season.

    At the end of the day, I am about basketball, not personality. Who cares what type of guy he is off of the court and what he says. And many of us are so quick to judge what he says when we dont have a clue what is like to be in his shoes.

    Daryl, finish the season out with Tracy and let his contract expire, if you dont like what you see then NO PROBLEM, youre now in the 2010 free agency running and you havent lost anything, however, if you trade him now and aquire someone with more years in their contract you make things more difficult for yourself by hurting your changes in the 2010.

    Call me old fashioned but I still would like to see the Yao, Tracy combination in the playoffs together becasue I truly believe that them together will lead us to the promise land. We have only seen them together once back when we lost to Dallas and Tim Donaghy has already admitted to everyone that he fixed that series. If you go back and watch games 3-6, you will see its very obvious.

    So I say lets stop focussing on what this man does and says off the court and concentrate on what he can on the court becasue regardless to what everyone says, we ALL know that when this guy is healthy, he is a BEAST!!!!!
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    What?

    The guy has been here with Adelman for 3 years, and it is his 12th year in the league, and you are attempting to bring out the "needs more time" to know the defense EXCUSE card?

    Unreal.

    And J-wood, your post is garbage, stop posting it over and over in different threads......it lacks even a general understanding of the salary cap and just makes you look stupid.

    DD
     
  7. Jeff Who

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    You know, Iverson said one great thing when he was im Memphis. I love that comment.

    'If the guy ahead of me is better than I am, than I am ok with limited role'

    And neither Shane or Tracy are better than TMac, even now.

    I mean, ok. I can agree that Shane is a needed player on the floor because he gives you 100% every night and he is our best defender.

    But with Trevor, Tracy even now (he isn't 100% yet) is better than Ariza. Period.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Wrong....Tmac is at best 4th best on the team.

    You know why? Because defense is also part of playing.

    And what is Tmac shooting these days....better than the others? Let's take a look.....oh....it is .368%......hmmmmm not all that great...

    I don't get it....he should have to EARN more time, and right now he just isn't.

    DD
     
  9. HTown_TMac

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    Wanting to play the game of basketball and not being able to do it IS frustrating. I say give him limited minutes in the 1st and 3rd.

    And DD... Our defense has changed now that Yao is out and there is no Deke, so come on... Put the hate pipe down for one second and think about it
     
  10. thcdrummer007

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    Sounds like your not having a very good day...
     
  11. HTown_TMac

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    Coming from a Wafer fan... Give him time to catch up with NBA Speed (which is done by playing a NBA game) And offense is part of the game, so why isnt Ariza being benched? Battier?

    Logic please.
     
  12. Jeff Who

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    I don't know if you have ever played bball but it is a rythm game. And belive me, it is pretty impossible or very difficult to find your ryth during 8 minutes.

    What's more, I think he is feeling pressure because he wants to show his best during that stretch so he may be trying to do too much.

    So please, don't look at his stats. Tracy is a player who can overcome even a 1/8 start. He has done it times and times again.

    Is Trevor better than Tracy (overall)? In my opinion NO.

    And Chase is INJURED.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Whatever, you guys are supping from the EXCUSES line at Lubys....

    Wake me up when you get a dose of reality and see what type of player your mancrush is these days.

    Stop looking at old highlights and pining for the 13 in 33 days.....he is not that, nor will he ever be again.

    And right now, he is basically an end of the bench player......

    Not saying that is all he will ever be, but I believe in EARNING your way onto the floor, and he has not done that.

    And for a guy that is only playing 7 minutes, he sure takes it easy out there on defense.

    Not exactly forcing the coach to play him is he?

    Shows all the character flaws he has as a player in 7 short minutes.

    Adelman - BRILLIANT !

    DD
     
  14. Carl Herrera

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    I am trying to figure out what part of "NBA Speed" is required to raise his hand at Ryan Anderson as he takes a 3 point shot.

    Did he not understand the "Adelman's scheme" has defenders with their hands up when opposing player is shooting?
     
  15. RedRedemption

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    His semi-r****ded process of handling his problems last year just negates all this. He's lucky he's playing so early.
     
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    He is a competitor and obviously wants to be on the court and wants to win. That is why he played hurt last season and why he has shown his frustration verbally.

    Regardless of if the way he is being used is right or wrong, being frustrated about not being able to play more than 7 minutes is a natural feeling to have,
     
  17. Dallas Rocket

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    It's obvious the team does not see him as part of our future. I think what we're seeing is "short leash showcasing" of TMac, probably to our short term detriment, in order to maximize any upcoming deal involving him. The aborted Wafer move when Budinger went out speaks volumes. I doubt there's a physical reason why he couldn't log more minutes.

    Just my 2 cents.

    D R
     
  18. Hball

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    Can't expect him to just be great, when he hasn't played in the NBA for about 8 months and playing minimum minutes, any player would be rusty but he just needs gametime to get back to a high level of playing.

    Just like when yao comes back Im sure it will take him months to adjust and get back to playing at a high level, we all know how he struggles when he's away from basket ball for weeks so players just need that gametime expirience to get back in a rythm.
     
  19. HTown_TMac

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    No one is saying bump him to 30mins a game. Give him an oppurtunity to play more. People keep bringing up him not putting a hand in Andersons face. Okay.. ONE PLAY, I can bring up more than that where he DID play defense. What about someone like Ariza missing an assignment? Where is Ariza earning his time? We have no idea what going on behind the scenes. T-Mac can still be a good player. You can tell when he drove the ball to the goal... When he took the contact.. When he shot those midrange jumpers... That game he played offense and defense. What did he earn?
     
  20. reupdadj1

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    I see the hate in your eyes man....you just don't even care about the basketball aspect of it you just looking to hate and to lash out on McGreaty at any cost. I know its your opinion but C'Mon Man
     

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