CriscoK, What I'm saying is women are always much better at technique than men. I mean when that Pall Mall women leaned over the bar for me to light her cigarette, I knew immediately she was testing my finesse. Come on...what woman is interested with elbows in the face...or being backed into paint. The ones I know look for focused concentration and a good stroke... Notice how that attribute defines all the sports where the women pros can crush ANY male hacker... tennis darts bowling golf FTs sex I think rolling donuts is in there, too.
Before you all go postal on me, think before you post! I specifically said that I was targeting NO ONE PERSON in particular. R0ckets03, why are you being so defensive?! My ass never said anything to you. Why do you feel so compelled to justify and defend yourself? I never mentioned you. I kinda figured I'd see some people take my comments to heart. Not that I was, but if my post had been a trap you just threw yourself right into it! I'm sure some psychology student would find the humor and irony in your response. Kagy, what boat are you talking about? I too am all for a separate Comets forum. This is one of the rare Comets post that I've seen so I just made a statement in this thread on some opinions that I have about the Comets/WNBA. I didn't misunderstand your reasoning for wanting a Comets forum. You made your reason quite clear. No need to explain it to me. ------------------ RocketFuel is taking the summer off!
Hey Daro I think Stockton and Malone are b****es. Now I have cussed out some guys. So now am I neutral? I dont think women are "ho"s. Nor do I think they are inferior to men in any way. My "ho" statement was derived from LHutz. I was just trying to be funny. I guess not. Either way you all win. WNBA rules...blah blah blah. Happy. We all are still Rocket fans arent we? So instead of fighting amongst ourselves lets make fun of Fabr or somethin. ------------------ Now introducing the starting lineup for your Houston Rockets: Starting at Center, from Wake Forets TIM DUNCAN...
Reggie doesn't make the shot in that commercial, he misses. Meaning T-Spoon can hit that shot but he can't. Now if Reggie, Shaq, Magic and other NBA players can go to WNBA games and appreciate the league, then why can't you guys?
I am a woman. I play basketball. I hate the WNBA. There are several things I just don't get about the WNBA. For instance - what is the deal with the 30 second shot clock? Who needs 30 seconds to shoot the dang ball? All it does is make the game slow as hell. I don't get the closer 3 point line, either. I can an NBA 3 with no problem - why can't they???? The smaller ball - I'm totally baffled by this one, I really don't see the point in it. This is just an aesthetic thing - what is up with the colors of the ball? The colored ball worked in the ABA because they were bright and you could see the colors move when the ball spun. The same is not true with the WNBA ball - the colors are too mute and down right ugly. I have been to several WNBA games, including the Finals in 1997, 1998, 1999. I was at the first ever Comets game in Houston - my memory of that consists of getting several Rockets' autographs and literally bumping in to Brent Price (I thought I was going to be responsible for him being out the following season with sore ribs or something). I went to the first games of the other seasons to get the replica championship rings. I went to a few Utah Starzz games just to see Frank Layden on the sidelines once again (not nearly as heavy nor as funny). I've only been excited one time - game 2 of the 1999 Finals when Teresa hit that beautiful half court shot. Granted, I am partial to Teresa because of the school she played for, but I really haven't seen anything else to get even a tiny bit excited over. If people want to talk about the Comets, they should have their own place to do it - they can create a website, whatever; give them a forum here. Do whatever you want to do as long as I don't have to look at it. Just my opinion.... ------------------ Jen Signatureless
So tell me Jenna, Would you like the WNBA if the rules were the same? Your reply is the only one that actually has some valid reasons. In your case you can blame the suits in NY for creating an "inferior" product. I actually agree with you in that aspect. I don't see why the rules are different either. Other than that, though, I still have a good time watching. ------------------ RocketFuel is taking the summer off!
Clutch, To answer your question, I think their is sufficient intrest in WNBA topics to create a separate forum. On a separate note, since the NBA intended the WNBA to help bridge the gap of the NBA off season, it would give Clutch City members an opportunity to stay active when the NBA is not playing. The big question is, do you and others have the time to play referee to this enthusiastic bunch? You stated on a previous post, that you have a life outside of clutchcity. (Truth or Rumor?) Perhaps you can find a couple of WNBA enthusists who have the drive, desire, and time, to monitor it. ------------------ Stay Cool...
SpaceCity - I think I would possibly enjoy it if the rules were the same. To me, all the differences just shout that women can't play the game the same as the men. Women shouldn't get more time to shoot or get more points closer in. It's not equality; women are getting a lot of breaks - it seems like pity to me, really. Another thing I just thought of - why is the game two 20 minute halves? They're playing "professional" basketball with college rules - I'm not a fan of that in the least. While the WNBA is striving for equality in sports, it seems to me that they are also holding the movement back by not making the game close enough to the men's game. Here's another thing - why are most of the officials in the WNBA men? Sure, there are several women, but the men have to out number them. The NBA only has two female officials (I don't agree with that, but that's another topic to take up later), therefore, the WNBA should have the same percentage of male officials in their league. Just my opinion.... ------------------ Jen Signatureless
dc -- well said... OK, we'll create a Comets forum but I'll need a volunteer to monitor it and anyone have any name ideas for the forum? ____ Comets ____? "They've got next". "They've got game". "That was a weak ass bankshot". I don't know ------------------ NOTHING BUT .NET CLUTCHCITY.NET
Jenna, I actually think there are some valid reasons why the WNBA has the rules it has: (1) They want to have an identity of their own, and not just be an NBA afterthought. So, they specifically wanted to depart from the NBA rules and look. Also following this idea, they didn't allow teams to take on feminized versions of NBA names (like the Sacramento Queens). (2) Women cannot compete with NBA when it comes to showboat dunks. So, they want to compete by stressing basketball fundamentals, tactics and strategy. A 'pure' basketball. College basketball has a reputation for being a more tactically-oriented game, so they tried ot make their league resemble the college-game to get a more tactical feel. I don't think college rules are somehow 'softer' than NBA rules, they're just different and they require you to be good at slightly different things in order to win. (3) The smaller ball does seem to be a pity move. However, having women play with a smaller ball long pre-dates the WNBA. As for the rest of this thread, I'll withhold my opinion. I worry that a new forum would get little traffic, but then again the NBA Action forum already gets very little traffic and no one seems to mind. ------------------
Clutch, I know you would never believe it from the length of some of my posts, but I believe in keeping things simple whenever they can be. I would suggest "Comets 2000: Game Action and Roster Moves," right off of the main Clutch BBS discussion board page. If interest demands it, and someone makes the commitment to update links to articles, etc, you could later add a separate lead in page, similar to the set-up with Save Our Rockets. ------------------ Stay Cool...
Clutch: How about "The Quest for 4" I do agree with Jenna about what she said (and this has to be a first ) The ABL, which was another women's league before it folded last year, used the NBA size ball. The talent in that league was also much stronger than the WNBA. Cynthia Cooper says in her book that she doesn't like the WNBA ball because it is too slippery. Thank God the ABL folded and the WNBA got more competition. Anyhoo, just remember that this is still a young league. As is gets bigger and has more publicity, some rules will change. Eventually they hope to have as many teams as the NBA, and add more games to the season and make the games longer than 40 minutes. Doing all this and changing the shot clock to 24 seconds sure would up the scoring! ------------------ No matter how badly the idiots may outmumber you, they're still the idiots.
Is 6 extra seconds all that much to make a fuss over? When the NBA first started they had NO shot clock. The FIBA/Olympic rules use 30 seconds also. Are you gonna skip the Olympics just because of that? In the NCAA the men get 35 seconds (formerly 45) while the women only get 30. By your logic the women are the better players. The WNBA 3-point line is equivalent to the NCAA line. The FIBA also uses 2, 20 minute halves as opposed to 4 quarters. The NBA is not the only "professional" league in the world ya know? Jenna, if you "hate" the WNBA so much, then why do you bother going to the games, let alone the Finals? Why not let someone else buy that ticket who would actually want to go? Or if these are freebie tix then give them to someone who would appreciate it more (like me for example) At least your LA Tech has more players in the WNBA (7 or more) than the NBA (2) [This message has been edited by outlaw (edited April 27, 2000).]
Jenna, it sounds like you have issues with with the WNBA for silly reasons. Your complaining that they play a "non professional" type of basketbal, just because it is like women's college basketball shows a lack of insight. Everyone who watches the game should know that NBA basketball is no more professional than college ball. It's basically a different sport, alomost all together than college ball. Some people can watch them both, some can only stomach one type. They really are very different. The way the WNBA is set up is an interesting way for them to play, and it works fine. There is not going to be as much scoring in women's basketball and thier rules are condusive to that. It stays plenty exciting, as a matter of fact I'm positive that the Comets have a much higher tempo game than the 1996, 97, and 98 Rockets had. You could not look at me with a straight face and tell me that the Comets are less exciting than the 2 mph ball we were playing those years. Lighten up. My guess is that because you play, everyone around you assumed that you liked the WNBA so just to be a little rebel you decided to hate them. COOP ROCKS!!!!!!! ------------------
It looks like the "if Jenna posts it, it is automatically wrong, so we must gang up on her and try to make her look stupid" movement has returned to the BBS. It's not working. outlaw....Yes, I will allow 6 seconds to be a part in my disliking the WNBA. I'll allow it to be the number 1 reason I don't like the WNBA. No one needs 30...35...45 seconds to shoot a ball. Heck, no one even needs 24 seconds to shoot a ball.....I'm well aware that the NBA is not the only professional league. I've been around the NBA for 15 seasons, so it's what I prefer. Yes, there is FIBA, which is a great league in and of itself. If given a choice between the NBA and FIBA, I'm taking the NBA in a heartbeat. When it comes to comparing them to the WNBA - which really isn't fair to do - it does look more like FIBA and NCAA. The league is not the WFIBA, and it's not college ball. The league is run by the exact same staff as the NBA. I would prefer the game to be more similar to the NBA. As I said, that is totally my opinion. You may not like it, but I have every right to have that opinion....As for why I go to games - mostly because I can. I'll go for the Finals, I'll go because my friends will be there (on and off the court). I have every right to. It's not like attendance is so high that I'm "depriving" someone of the experience. Even if it was impossible to get a ticket, I don't really care - there's nothing that says that tickets must go to those who want them most first. If you want a ticket, call TicketMaster. If I get free tickets (which I don't - actually, I have season tickets to a WNBA team), it's not my duty to pass those on to you just because you want to be there more than I do. fromobile...do you honestly think I'm just trying to be a "rebel"? I refused to play organized women's basketball my entire life because of the rules. No one around me assumed I'd like the WNBA - all of my friends assumed I'd want to have nothing to do with it. I don't dislike the WNBA to be a rebel, I dislike the WNBA because of the reasons I mentioned above. I have every right to feel the way I do. You have every right to think the WNBA is the best thing to ever happen in sports. We don't have to agree. ------------------ Jen Signatureless
I'm sorry but buying tickets, season tickets no less, to something that you actively "hate" is stupid in my opinion. Even if you're super rich and can afford to do so, it makes absolutely no sense. Unless you just go there to ridicule it, which would seem like a big waste of time. You say you have friends "on the court". Do they know you "hate" what they do for a living? [This message has been edited by outlaw (edited April 28, 2000).]
Yes I really do think you're doing it to be a cool rebel. You just said " I refused to play organized women's basketball my entire life because of the rules" That's called REBELLING!!! What is really so wrong with the WNBa rules that you wouldn't play? That's like me refusing to play a game of twenty one because someone calls "no tip-ins!". Who really cares? hmmm....Yeah, I mean you just seem to be reacting a little strongly here. It's got to be alterier motives from your opinions on the sport. That's all I'm really saying. I guess the "your friends assumed..." thing I wrote was just a shot in the dark, but really there is no reason for you to wholeheartedly dis the three time champs unless there is something very silly that you're getting out of it. I mean if this was soccer...ok, I'd give it to you, but the Comets? Nonsense. Look there is nothing wrong with the WNBA. Geepers! Let it out, we're all friends here. What's really bothering you? ------------------
Especially not me, JV, because I'm supposed to be monitoring the NBA Action one. Less work this way! ------------------ Anyone who advocates the use of violence should be beaten, tortured, and killed (painfully if possible).
Let's see, what am I now: "super rich" - please let my bank know that so they can add a whole lot of money to my account. "stupid" - in bold. Being that it is in bold to stand out so much, I take it this person thinks that I, as a person, am stupid. Thank you for that personal attack. It really helps your arguments seem valid. Whatever.... I have "alterior motives" - yeah, I stayed up one night trying to come up with ways to link valid reasons for my opinion to yanking "fromobile"'s chain. That's it - you've caught me - my life totally revolves around messing with this BBS, but I occasionally take off a day or two to watch Karl Malone drop some sort of record on the Seattle SuperSonics. It's always difficult for me to stop my plotting, but I've found a way I can plot at the games now - during the timeouts! Whatever Part II.... I "dis the three time champs" - where?? I dised the whole league, as did about 40 other posts that were not attacked piece by piece. Disliking the WNBA is "nonsense" - why, just because you like it? I like the Utah Jazz and you don't, therefore, your disliking of the Jazz is "nonsense," right? I don't want a big long reply to that, I'm just trying to use your reasoning to show that opinions do not have to agree. "there's nothing wrong with the WNBA" - in your opinion. In my opinion, there are several problems with the league. I am allowed to feel that way, you are allowed to feel the way you do. "what's really bothering you?" - honestly, nothing. However, I do find it a bit odd that I was jumped on for giving actual reasons why I don't like the league, and those who said they did not like it by using words like "suck" and not providing any reasons were virtually left alone. I find it disturbing that someone cannot post an opposing opinion to some without having the other side try to ram a 2x4 down your throat. I like the idea of the WNBA, I just don't like how it is set up. If you like how it is set up, good for you. I don't have to agree with you. I'm not trying to change your opinion of the league, so don't try to change mine. This BBS was designed to be a open forum for the exchange of thoughts, not the cyber version of WWF. We don't have to agree on things, we should argue with each other in a mature manner. If we do not do this, the entire purpose of this forum will be defeated. ------------------ Jen Signatureless
