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Can we have a serious discussion about Jeremy Lin?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jVgOwnsYou, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. ryano2009

    ryano2009 Member

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    First game- wasn't good game, first playoff game ever
    second game- was playing well through the first half then got injured
    third game- still injured


    So I don't understand what the b****ing about...?
     
  2. zdrav

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    Aren't you the one who said that a player should have no problem dribbling and driving past defenders despite a bruised/torn pectoral muscle?

    /credibility
     
  3. jVgOwnsYou

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    I never ever said that Harden was on Durant's level. You're talking about the second best player in the NBA.
     
  4. jVgOwnsYou

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    Look, anything I say about the injury is pure speculation. I have no idea what Lin is feeling like, but AS HE SAID, "If I'm on the floor, I have to perform." PERIOD Bottom line.
     
  5. knickstorm

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    he's toeing the company line. Tim Tebow said all the right things....you really think he didnt deserve a shot after Sanchez got hurt last year?
     
  6. roxxy

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    It isn't true that Lin hasn't improved as a decision maker he has find it odd that you say that. Also saying he has become more tentative as the season progresses contradicts the drastic improvements he showed this year.

    And LOL at the Lin would tell you himself behind closed doors that he is limited, you aren't a mindreader, don't understand the fans that claim to know the players thoughts.

    I agree he does need to add some go to moves but that happens in time, you don't have go to moves in your first season a starter that defies logic. His shooting also needs to get better (which it likely will fingers crossed). Lin has an elite first step & is more than capable of beating his man off the dribble odd that you say otherwise. Why do people say that he isn't "quick".

    Rockets need to emphasize more on ball screens for the ball handlers to give them a step on there man. We don't do this enough for guys like Bev & harden & Lin. I notice a lot of off ball screens but not many on ball ones. McHale relies on guys beating there man 1 on 1 without screens way to much.

    He has been a average starting PG this season & has more than played up to his salary (numbers back this up) but I do agree that he needs to play above his pay grade (this has yet to happen).

    You speak of ulterior motives behind his contract but remember revenue sharing occurs in the NBA so whatever marketing money you think he brings to Houston is shared amongst the entire NBA. Another lazy narrative fans use to discredit there players.

    Also if Linsanity was a small sample then why has what Bev shown this year more of a guarantee? Bevs sample this season has also been incredibly small & has been mainly against back ups? Do you not see the double standard.
     
  7. jVgOwnsYou

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    Ugh...I don't see how that situation is comparable at all. Are you saying that Lin shouldn't have played? or are you saying that it was ok for him to start the game knowing that he had an excuse if he played poorly?
     
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  8. UTAllTheWay

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    I could tell right from the start that Jeremy Lin wasn't right tonight. Even during the player introductions, he just walked straight through everyone... he didn't even acknowledge anybody.

    It was obvious he had no business being in this game.
     
  9. knickstorm

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    I'm saying the player is always going to say the right thing. Once again you cant win arguments with hippocrits like you because if he says he was hampered you scream it's an excuse and he shouldnt have to play in the first place.

    I already explained to you Harden got more help from his teammates than Durant did, so you should look towards him a little more for not coming through when his teammates needed him.
     
  10. JMAD21

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    People seem to consistently forget how young these guys are! Lin is basically a 2nd year player in terms of actuall games played! He's very young and still learning, AND has a pretty significant injury...

    I'm not a HUGE Lin fan, buts its just too soon to label him anything. I don't think Lin will be a superstar, or even an allstar. But he can be a good starter, in fact, he has been a good starter all year. Inconsistent? Yes. But still good.
     
  11. Yang_Wenli

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    Lin's bread-and-butter is the Pick and Roll, which the team seriously lacks.
    Our bigs suck at setting screens except Asik, and our playbook doesn't have much to offer in that department except for the high pick and roll that barely fazes the opposing team.
    Which is why I don't really view this playoff season as much important compared to the offseason, where the team can actually implement plays and gear toward more Pick and Roll , which will definitely benefit Lin and Harden.

    It may sound like I'm making excuse for Lin (well maybe I am) but his case this season has many factors that work against him, and he still manages to put up solid number, so I'm still clinging to that word "potential" and not ready to write him off yet.

    It's nice to have a discussion about him without extreme hyperbole.
     
  12. SuperStar

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    Which is why it boggles my mind he thought that he could play. Even tweets were saying that he wasn't looking good in shoot around.
     
  13. jVgOwnsYou

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    I'm not trying to get into an argument. Lin said it so I assumed he meant it. You obviously think he's BSing us all in his interview, but I think the coaching staff would agree. You're well enough to play, no excuses. You're not, sit down. That's the general rule.

    Harden made several mistakes but we're talking about Lin in this thread.
     
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    If I was Lin I'd believe in god too, because his contract is a miracle.
     
  15. knickstorm

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    players arent going to take themselves out...it's up to the coach to make the decision for them. Blame McHale. Just like when RG3 went down...no one blamed him, they gave him props for gutting it out even though he was horrendous.

    For some reason people want to get on Lin for even trying. That's what athletes do.
     
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  17. jVgOwnsYou

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    The difference is that RG3 had no one behind him that could execute his kind of play while we could come up with several more effective lineups to make up for Lin's absence. If his injury was truly the reason behind his horrendous play, it was a selfish decision to gut it out.
     
  18. Patterned919

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    Man, everything is McHale's fault. Lin tells McHale he can play, McHale's fault. Lin sucks, McHale's fault. Lin sits, McHale's fault. Lin plays without confidence, McHale's fault.

    It's like the "blame Obama" meme at this point.
     
  19. SuperStar

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    I blame the player more because they know their own body more than anyone else. McHale does get some responsibility since he should of seen how badly Lin was playing and grimacing though. He should of never played in the second half.
     
  20. sando

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    Well, here we go again.
     

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