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Can we have a serious discussion about Jeremy Lin?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jVgOwnsYou, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. spdngyns69

    spdngyns69 Member

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    Seriously, he's useless. Has done nothing positive during the playoffs and plays scared. Sit'em out for good and Play Beverly and rotate the remaining minutes with Brooks Garcia Delfino etc. Plus he's injured and can't play through it, even more useless.
     
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  2. Kwame

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    I haven't been impressed with his play, especially his decision-making. For example, he likes to dribble into spots where the defense can easily trap him and then picks up his dribble for some reason, which has led to turnovers and easy buckets for the other team. He doesn't really have any consistent go-to moves other than his bull-rush to the basket, which isn't really a move at all. He'd be a nice backup pg at about $2 million per year that way he could play against the other team's second unit, but he's overpaid. You need too many upper-tier players around him to mask his weaknesses and deficiencies. He could improve, but so can anyone else. His lackluster play plus his ridiculous contract make for a bad combination.
     
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    I think he should get one more season before we just give up on the guy. He wasn't bad this year, just way overpaid given his level of production. He did improve over the course of the year with his outside shot. And he deserves at least some of the credit for the Rockets being the highest scoring team in the league. The things he needs to work on like making better decisions with the ball and not leaving his feet before knowing where he's gonna pass can be dealt with.
     
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    dfish basically stole harden's lunch money too. beverely couldn't even get around him. It's quite obvious d fish sold his soul to lucifer. Lin shouldn't have been out there b/c of the injury. when lin isn't attacking, he can't shoot so he is basically idle.
     
  6. roxxy

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    He was hurt why are you why are you making conclusive statements based off of a player that isn't healthy? He was awful in game one. Got hurt in game 2 & was hurt in game 3. He has played a grand total of 52 minutes in the post season. FIFTY TWO. Making judgements on any player on such a small sample is silly. You need to take a step back.

    What we need to have a serious discussion about is why the Rockets lose games to Phoenix in the regular season.
     
  7. Classic

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    Why do people consider 24 young when talking about Lin? As if a 24 yr old can't be accomplished. That's a bull **** figure because I could go through the NBA's history and find guys who have put up stellar stats at 24. This is as good as its gonna get what we saw this year.

    Lin is what he is. If you were expecting a top 15 point guard from a 30 game sample he's a bust. Otherwise he's a role player receiving heavy minutes on a low seeded playoff team.
     
  8. jVgOwnsYou

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    I was at the game and honestly don't think he got pulled because of his injury, He was just flat out ineffective. Very similar to his game 1 performance where he was 100 percent healthy.
     
  9. timyeung

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    IMHO the only Rockets player to really up his level of play during the Playoffs was Beverly.

    Not Harden, not Lin, not Parsons, etc.

    Of course, you have to pick on the one guy who gets injured while scrambling for the ball for our team. You also forget that Lin is one of the reasons why we are in the Playoffs in the first place.

    All these LOH and their hateful comments make it hard to root for the Rockets.
     
  10. yohimbe505

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    He's actually the opposite kind of player you're describing. He doesn't need upper tier players to mask his deficiencies because there are only two upper tier players that can mask the deficiencies of the players around them Dwight and Lebron. He's the kind of player that needs a high USG% with a couple of shooters around him and a bunch of scrappy role players that hustle.. and maybe that's in a 6th man role with the second unit.
     
  11. Shroopy2

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    Its starting more and more to look that Patrick Beverley is THAT GOOD.

    More than it is Lin is that BAD.

    Now I wouldnt give Patrick Beverley 8 mil a season either. But can't totally say Lin "sux".

    Lin's pay is a product of prior circumstances and probably a false "upside" ceiling.
     
  12. kwongadong

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    Were you in the last row?
     
  13. yohimbe505

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    He's a 24 year old that wasn't drafted and only began to receive any meaningfuly minutes a year ago.
     
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    Its uncommon for young players to up their level of play in the playoffs. I'm just looking for guys who can maintain their level of play into the post-season against stronger competition. That in itself would be an accomplishment.
     
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    Agree. Lin is more a "Jarret Jack" level 6th man than an upper tier starter.

    Its just how you view his game after that
     
  16. jVgOwnsYou

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    The loss to Phoenix hurt, but say we win that game. We're matched up with SA. Is Tony Parker somehow a better matchup than D Fish/Reggie Jackson? As far as the injury excuse, I watched the game and I don't think Lin's ineffectiveness was due to the injury so much as he was just simply locked down as he was in game one. Does a sore pec keep you from being able to beat your man off of the dribble?
     
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  17. Clutch

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    Yes, you can have a serious discussion, but only if everyone practices restraint and refuses to take the bait and reply to nasty posts. Understand that criticizing Jeremy Lin for some is very personal and they will react accordingly, so comment with some intelligence and ignore (and/or report) those that don't.
     
  18. nono

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    Biggest disappointment of the playoffs, but what can we do ? Just have to hope he is better next year.
     
  19. roxxy

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    24 year olds never get better? Really. Why do fans believe that guys can't get better. Parker had the best season of his career last year at how old 27? Steve Nash was a late bloomer. Even Mike Conley has gotten better. Players get better all the time. Every body believes Beverly will get better (& I agree) & yet Lin can't. Good lord.

    Lin is an average PG getting paid average starting PG money. He more than earned his salary this season & considering that he was a part of Houston making the playoffs he deserves way more credit. He has had his first season as a full time starter & his first playoff game. Jrue Holliday was awful last year in the post season look at him this season. Whether Lin achieves increased success is up to his work ethic & I wouldn't bet against anybody that works hard.
     
  20. yohimbe505

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    Houston is just in a tough situation. You've got two guys that right now in their careers try and do some of the same things. I'd just move Harden to the 1 since that's where it seems the coach has always wanted him and ship Lin to a small market team in need of something for fans to get excited about where he can just pick up where he left off in NY which was playing freely and learning as he went along. But then that leaves you guys with the need to find a legitimate post up threat of which there are few of or a guy who can play off of Harden and carry a big load.
     

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