Can we have a serious discussion about Jeremy Lin?

He can't. He's mentally weak and is playing scared. Those other guys actually have balls and won't shrink at the first sign of adversity or pressure.

If Lin played in the playoffs last year, he would be a third stringer in New York right now.

 

What could've been.. Lowry or Dragic with a Beverley backup.

 

Most average athletes know when they're injured they shouldn't play unless they know they can perform.

STARS play through injury and get praised because they CAN and they DO perform. Very seldom so i see average players get out there and try to play through injury, and do absolute garbage.

the reason why Lin got burned is because he's not an all star, he's an average point guard who should know his limits. Instead he just brought our team down when we needed it. You cant be selfish and think about yourself like that in the playoffs, and just get some PT or because you think you can do it. Lin needs to know his role and his place.

 

yeah i expanded on this post a little later...but i guess we just see it differently...lin was hurt and wanted to help (remember he got eviscerated by the media and especially stephen a smith for not playing hurt in the playoffs last year) he didnt play well at all...no excuses...but i just thought the criticism was a bit harsh

the way i see it, if hes not game, then its on the coach to yank him, i think you want guys that are willing to play through pain and who always want to see action...i think we both agree he got too much tick, the 1st half bev had foul trouble so i can kind of understand, but when he started the 2nd half, i thought it was a huge mistake

i just thought the comments against him at that time were overboard and misdirected, isn't it on the coach to put the best line-ups on the floor? mchale has shown he has no problem benching lin, so why not bench him when it was so obvious that he was hurting the team? as soon as he got benched, the team played way better, just thought that sub should have come way sooner...either way i dont think he was trying to be selfish

 

Like I've said before both are at fault. Lin, because he knows his body more than anyone else. He was obviously in a lot of pain and during the shoot around tweets were coming out saying that he wasn't looking good. Then McHale who should of realized Lin wasn't effective and benched him a lot sooner.

 

Serge Ibaka Jan 2013 - Missed 2 games due to chest contusion.

I think you need to elaborate and compare these types of injuries ~ As far as I know every Rocket has been playing with injuries, its the nature of a long season of basketball.

 

I would also recommend you look at Steve Nash's lack of contribution playing injured during the playoffs. Or Dwight Howard ~ earlier in the Laker's season.
Or Carmelo Anthony last season and his statements and statements of others in the Knicks franchise as to his lack of contribution due to playing injured.

You can stand by your statements but there is ample proof in the last season and this current season at other franchises which demonstrate that - playing injured does lead to a lack of contribution or a fall-off.


Speaking of people getting hurt and durability being a sign of a "quality player".


Derrick Rose tearing his ACL ~ and going MIA for more than 1 year.
Iman Shumpert ~
Baron Davis ~
Chauncey Billups ~
Rajon Rondo ~
John Wall ~
Kyrie Irving ~
Steve Blake ~
Kevin Love ~


What is your opinion on all these other players? That have proven less than durable?

 

Can we stop this non-sense now. Lowry trade gave us a first which netted Harden. Lowry here= no Harden.

Dragic to us is like Lin to Knicks. He decided to leave to have a better contract.

 

Because Beverly hasn't dropped 38 and 9. He's consistently average, but shows no signs of "video game" potential. This is what Morey calls "variance."

 

He chose to play basketball as a career, despite ALL the adversity and pressure. Studying and going to college never gave him any hardship, but playing basketball has been always adversity in his life. High school, college, NBA, all he did was defying odds, proving doubters wrong, and overcoming adversity.

What rocked MSG wasn't a few wins in regular season or a few games of 30 points, nor was the fact Lin is an Asian. Asian can be seen on NYC streets, subways, and offices everywhere every single minute. What excited people was that Jeremy Lin succeeded in the face of ADVERSITY and PRESSURE, while remaining humble and team-oriented.

 

Lin will be traded this offseason. Book it.

 

Is this just your spidey senses or do you have some inside information.

I had a premonition when I was watching the Lakers game today that Lin would be with the Lakers next year.

 

I don't think so, but if it gets us good quality back, I won't have any problem.

If we only trade him to get Lowry or Dragic back, Rockets would become the laughing stock.

Anyways, as long as Lin or whoever is on the team, I will support him.

 

What are you talking about? I criticized Lin and wanted Beverly to start if he was going to play like a p***y like in the first game. It’s fine to criticize players when they’re awful, but OP’s argument was Lin was soft and scared of playing 2nd half of 2nd game and then changed his mind that Lin shouldn’t have acted tough and be a liability to the team. It seems he just needed someone to blame for getting crushed by OKC. I wasn’t trying to play what if game, but if someone has to take the responsibility for us to fall from 6th to 8th seed, it’s on McHale. Lin and Harden were cold but Harden was put in a position where he couldn’t be effective at all in the last few min. And 2nd and 3rd playoff games were very close down the stretch and it’s dejavou all over again. No matter who the opponents are, we just couldn’t win close game and Lin was hardly the reason.

 

First thing - I could only see Lin going to the Lakers in a full blow up of their roster AND they keeping Dwight. Not one or the other, but both happening.

Meaning-
Kobe- amnestied
Gasol- trading for peanuts(possible but not for the value of Lin)
Nash- trading for peanuts(hard to see the Rockets wanting him)
Metta- maybe just waived or traded for peanuts (no way the Rockets want him back)

At that point you have Dwight re-signing up for a full blow rebuild. If Dwight leaves LA, its most likely for Houston and in that case its hard to see the Lakers seeing any benefit to bringing in Lin since he would probably be viewed as more of a complementary player.

With that being said, the only way I see the Rockets partaking here is if they just feel that poorly about Lin that they are willing to part with him for a player they could get for much, much less in Gasol.

Unless there is a 3 team deal where the Rockets are getting much more in the trade, I dont see him landing in LA next year to partner back up with every LOF's dream coach Mike D'Antoni. Not gonna happen guys.

 

I love your ability to predict other people's feelings and personality makeup. Very impressive, you should become a psychologist. Or maybe a tarot card reader.

 

It's not prediction. I simply watched him play for the last 4 games and saw a frightened and weak little boy.

 

I will never blame a player for trying to play injured. Thats what atheletes do, they will always want to play no matter what. Its on the coaching staff to recognize that the player is too injured to contribute and take him out of the game. I dont blame JLin for trying to play injured one bit, i like the fact that he tried to be out there with his boys. Its on Mchale.

 

I simply read your posts for the last 4 pages and saw a fat and ugly troll.